Magnus: 

Thank you for raising this process discuss.  

The authors and I strong desire the I2RS model to be a NM management model that 
imports the appropriate things from IEEE. 

I have two points you should add to your process discuss: 

1) Where did the coordination instructions change for the WG chair? 

In the midst of the discussion within the IESG would you please consider how to 
provide better instructions for the lowly chair and authors on this topic.   In 
the past, the IESG sent information to IEEE-IETF.    (I was scribe during the 
first meeting of the IETF-IESG over the TRILL issue).   I was the TRILL chair 
for the last years of the TRILL WGs life.   I have participated in the IEEE 
802.1 and IETF during the TRILL issue when we were trying to resolve a common 
management for TRILL between IEEE and IETF.   During that time, it was 
important that a few focused voices discussed issues regarding TRILL.  It would 
help me to understand when this transitioned to chairs being able to send 
requests to the IEEE-IETF coordination list.  

We also asked for numerous reviews by Yang Doctors who were knowledgeable 
regarding IETF.  I delayed publication request several times until it appeared 
all issues were resolved.   This "sudden" surprise is indeed amazing since the 
L2 is 5 years old.  It is older than the 8021Qcp-2018 official models.   


2) Why are I2RS topology models are not seen as Network Management by the IEEE. 

These are virtual topology models used by open source platforms for management. 
 (E.g. Open Daylight). 

Sue  

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DISCUSS:
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This is a process discuss.

There apparently have been a failure to coordinate this with IEEE per 
discussion on the IETF-IEEE mailing list.

Glenn Parsons requested that this was deferred to give IEEE time to review it 
at their plenary next week. I think this time should be given before approving 
this document.






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