Hello Nigel,

Thanks for your comments.
Now I agree that there are both unidirectional and bidirectional scenario in 
transport technology.  If a direction or some similar attributes defined in 
link, it can be very helpful for supporting both scenario.

B.R.
Chaode
发件人: Davis, Nigel [mailto:[email protected]]
发送时间: 2023年6月6日 17:17
收件人: yuchaode <[email protected]>; TEAS WG <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
主题: RE: A question to the modeling of link in network topology

HI Chaode/all,

Essentially, a vast majority of structures in transport solutions are 
fundamentally unidirectional. This applies to most active components and some 
passive components. Many passive components, such as media are omni-directional 
(especially free space) unless constrained as a channel (e.g., a fiber, which 
is bidirectional). Most usages are bidirectional where some are symmetric and 
some asymmetric. Many usages are multi-point bidirectional (emergent from an 
assembly of many unidirectional point to point components).

The TAPI model, like many other standard models, focuses on bidirectional 
multi-point cases but the model classes also support unidirectional cases (as 
they are uni/bi classes). Clearly, point to point is a degenerate form of 
multi-point. The arrangement of flows within the multi-point structure can be 
described using a rule system (a specification model) that itself degenerates 
to unidirectional flows for the most complex of cases. The most efficient 
modeling approach appears be a uni/bi-multipoint representation along with a 
related specification representation.

I know there have been concerns raised from time to time on the unidirectional 
nature of RFC8345 and suggestions that maybe it should be enhanced to cover 
uni/bi-multipoint. Perhaps we should discuss this further.

Regards,

Nigel

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Subject: [**EXTERNAL**] [CCAMP] A question to the modeling of link in network 
topology

Hello friends,

According to the RFC8345, links are point-to-point and unidirectional. But I 
can’t find too much information in the document about the reason why they 
should be unidirectional.
It would be very appreciated if someone can give me some hints?

A possible reason I think is maybe the authors considered bandwidth could be 
different in uplink and downlink, so the links should be unidirectional.
And we can also find in RFC8795 TE topology model provides lots of augmentation 
towards link object, including bandwidth, label-restriction .etc.

In the transport domain, I think people would prefer to manage bandwidth and 
tributary slot information based on port rather than link. And there is not a 
uplink or downlink neither. So the previous assumption is not valid.
If we remove the restriction that links are unidirectional, then the links 
managed by the domain controller will be reduced by half. It will relief quite 
a lot of pressure when managing a large scale of networks.
For the bandwidth and label-restriction information, maybe we can move it to 
TP, or define a RPC to let the servers retrieve by TP directly. They don’t need 
to find its corresponding link at first and then find those information, which 
is time consuming.

It is just my simple consideration, please feel free to give your comments. 
Thanks!

B.R.
Chaode
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