Just to separate terms ....

Squeak is a free open source Smalltalk found at www.squeak.org.

Etoys is written in Squeak (by Viewpoints Research).

Scratch is also written in Squeak by Mitchel Resnick's group at MIT.

They are different "activities" (in the OLPC sense) but were written using the 
same portable environment.

Cheers,

Alan




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From: David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: iaep <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:01:48 AM
Subject: [IAEP] Distributing Scratch - a summary

Again, we had a productive thread about packaging Scratch on Linux 
Distributions.

The discussion by members of distributions and product communities about their 
own communities' history and practices has been great!

Sugar Labs Goals.
Sugar Labs is working to make the best possible learning platform available to 
the most kids.  Squeak Etoy is an important part of that platform.  As such, we 
would like to help facilitate the distribution of Squeak on Linux 
distributions.  

Source of Conflict.
The core issues appears to be that Scratch, as distributed from upstream, is 
provided in a format that is unfamiliar to downstream packagers and 
distribution.  This unfamiliarity is being expressed as a concern by the three 
distributions involved in this discussion. 
 
Effects of Conflict.
The unfamiliarity has resulted in a number of concerns, real or perceived, on 
the behalf of the distributions.  I am not making a statement of fact that the 
concerns listed below are real or perceived.  I am listing them as issues that 
will needs to be communicated between upstream and the distributions.
1. License. 
1. Availability of source code.
2. Maintainability of code by downstream.
3. Security.

Action Item.
Flesh out, and move this discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I will start that 
discussion with the participants of this thread cc:ed later this week.

thanks
david


      
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