I'm copying the iaep mailing list with my reply, in the hope that the information helps others, and reaches those who can pass it on and document it further.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:15, Stanley Sokolow <[email protected]> wrote: > Wade, > > As I recall, I did see a message when QEMU was booting up the emulation, > saying something about acceleration failing. I'll try what you suggested, > tonight. I've got to run some errands now. > > Regarding the networking, can QEMU be configured to do a normal DHCP between > it and the DHCP host on my router? It seems to me that the XO and the > emulators that worked had IP addresses of the form 192.168.0.x, which were > assigned by DHCP. They can detect each other. The Windows/QEMU/Sugar > emulator at times had an IP address beginning 169... and other times > 10.0.2.15 and it couldn't see or be seen by the others. So maybe having the > same IP address prefix (subnet) is crucial to presence detection on Sugar > when the computers reach each other through a common access point. > > Do you know if that's true, Morgan? The most common configuration with emulation, with qemu or virtualbox or VMWare or any of the other options is called NAT and is similar to what the typical DSL router does: to allocate a private IP address that can't be seen from the outside. There are different ranges of private IP addresses, and the 192.168.0.x which your network uses are one example. 10.x.x.x is another range which can be used. This means that just like your PC on 192.168.0.x can see machines on the Internet but those machines can't connect inbound to your PC, the emulator when it has an IP address of 10.x.x.x can see the 192.168.0.x machines but they can't in turn see the 10.x.x.x "machine". The 169.x.x.x address is for when DHCP fails, and is usually used by the XOs when they are on a mesh network with no other infrastructure (no schoolserver or wireless access point). It would also not be able to see or be seen by the 192.168.0.x machines. I'm not sure why that is happening some of the time - I'm not familiar with the exact configuration of the emulated version. All of the above would definitely break presence (the ability to see each other in Neighborhood View) and collaboration (being able to exchange data) unless you use a Jabber server. The reason is because the serverless mode of collaboration uses Avahi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software) - which requires all the participants to be on the same network - and the qemu emulated system is on a different network (10.x.x.x). Your options are therefore: a) Try to configure qemu to use a bridged network, which would let the emulated system get its own 192.168.0.x IP address - this seems to be theoretically possible but I can't find any definitive instructions. I've done it with VMWare before, but not qemu - and I don't know how configurable qemu on Windows is. b) Use a Jabber server that all the machines can access. b.1) Community Jabber Servers - see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers. These are maintained by volunteers, and unfortunately due to various scalability issues in the current implementation these servers get easily overloaded by too many users which brings them down until their databases are cleared. Try a few - you might get lucky, which shows my level of confidence in them... (We are working on a major enhancement to the Jabber server setup we use for Sugar, for the next release due in the first half of next year, which should make the community servers much more scalable and reliable.) b.2) Run your own Jabber server. This requires ejabberd, with some custom patches, which until recently meant compiling ejabberd from source. Now however the required patches have been added to ejabberd in debian and ubuntu, so you can just install a package and do the configuration and run it, which is much simpler. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd/deb for the instructions, which are straightforward for Ubuntu 8.10 and need a little extra to install on 8.04 as you need to get the package from backports. Let me know if you get stuck with Jabber server stuff and I'll try to help. Regards Morgan _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
