On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:58, David Van Assche <[email protected]> wrote: > I have recently done a bunch of bug reports relating to better working > under both sugar/ubuntu and sugar/ubuntu/ltsp. I'm using launchpad, > because that is the home of LTSP and Ubuntu too (and I like its > simplicty.) I've recently tested a cross collaboration setup with thin > terminals, non xo netbooks, and XOs... They all collaborated and > persistently remained in network neighbourhood without problems, even > if the XOs were using salut. Though Using a ejabberd server was > obviously more consistent. I tested many activities, some of which > worked, some of which didn't, but this was more due to Ubuntu than > LTSP per se. I'm now testing LTSP with F10 Sugar too, but I believe > the problems will be common across distros. There should be a new > article about this at olpcnews.com soon. My point above, though, was > really to indicate when focusing on future Sugar and its activities, > there should be testing and bug fixing in this area too. I am very > happy to help with that to make the LTSP Sugar experience common place > across existing labs in schools. Here in Vienna, we have been asked to > expand the existing XO pilot with non xos, and will be using a > combination of sugar usb sticks/cds and LTSP.... > > One thing we spoke about here locally was getting some thin client > device that was really certified to work with Sugar and whatever > distro... It would be a necessary requirement for country level > deployments...
Sounds good, what's the work that needs to be done in order to reach there? Thanks, Tomeu > Kind Regards, > David Van Assche > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> > wrote: >> The Resara guys have done a lot of good work in this area already. >> They made a report at Sugar Camp, but I don't know if there are >> associated tickets. >> >> -walter >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 15:18, David Van Assche <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> LTSP deployments range in the millions worldwide, and are definitely a >>>> necessary target for Sugar. Macedonia is just a small example of what >>>> has been done elsewhere with terminals that are far cheaper than the >>>> falsely advertised $100 laptops. In Brazil alone, there are millions >>>> of computers running LTSP on top of k12linux or edubuntu. Sugar Labs >>>> should be taking serious notice of thin client technology and adapting >>>> the UI to work for it. >>> >>> I agree with you. Do we have an idea of what needs to be done to sugar >>> in order to adapt it as best as possible to LTSP environments? Would >>> be nice to have a tracker ticket in dev.sugarlabs.org about LTSP >>> improvements. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tomeu >>> >>>> LTSP has been around for 10 years now, and as >>>> much as people talk about cloud computing, thin clients are getting >>>> more available and common, not less... >>>> >>>> kind Regards, >>>> David Van Assche >>>> www.nubae.com >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I had a pissing match with their founder in the WSJ about a year >>>>>> ago... >>>>> >>>>> I saw that written up at OLPC News. Yes, Ncomputing is still at it, >>>>> just like Intel and Microsoft. Competition, you know. Can't have that. >>>>> ^_^ >>>>> >>>>>> I didn't get any straight answers from him about costs or >>>>>> learning. >>>>> >>>>> Nothing usable on the site yesterday. Most of the site is down today. >>>>> >>>>>> But Sugar on their Ubuntu thin client sounds doable. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps we should have a word with Macedonia and some other countries. >>>>> We can't leave all of the sales work to Nicholas any more. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/09/17/226807/macedonia-rolls-out-ncomputing-clients-for-all-school.htm >>>>> >>>>> 180,000 units >>>>> >>>>> 1.8 M in India... >>>>> >>>>>> -walter >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Has anybody evaluated Ncomputing's claims on cost, power, and the like >>>>>>> for school deployments? For example, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Interview/Stephen_Dukker_CEO_Ncomputing/articleshow/3820649.cms >>>>>>> http://www.ncomputing.com/republic-of-macedonia.aspx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They run Ubuntu (or Windows) over thin clients, so they could run >>>>>>> Sugar once the packaging problems are fixed (The journal currently >>>>>>> saves precisely nothing). Has anybody talked with them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name >>>>>>> And Children are my nation. >>>>>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. >>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Walter Bender >>>>>> Sugar Labs >>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name >>>>> And Children are my nation. >>>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. >>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
