I couldn't resist a short comment. Since this perspiration quote is going on past a healthy limit, perhaps its good to remember its author, Thomas Edison, whom I hardly consider a role model.
His assistant, young Nicola Tesla, offered a reply: "If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety percent of his labor." It's important to code, but its important to have a vision too. So please don't mind us advocating for the vast open sea! Sebastian Back to action. http://www.creativecreativity.com/2007/10/tesla-and-ediso.html 2009/1/20 David Farning <[email protected]>: > Rob, > > Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration. > > Great accomplishments depend not so much on ingenuity as on hard work. > > Working code attracts people who want to code. > > Show me the code. > > Is there a similar expression in the domain of education? > > FWIW, I am neither a programmer nor an educator. I just find the > intersection between education and technology full of untapped > potential. > > david > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Costello, Rob R > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I see there are 6 descriptors on the getting involved page >> >> Only one of them seems primarily about 'working code' - which I doubt >> that many educators have contributed to. Just interested discussion and >> practical experience. >> >> Personally, I hope to get into this more fully, this year, now my work >> has hopefully down-shifted a gear, intensity wise, (ironically taking >> me out of the classroom where I was always hoping to trial it, and into >> development of educational maths software) >> >> Yes, I can see that without the technical systems up and working there >> is no project ...so its necessary, but not sufficient, to just build it >> >> consider the popularity of this immensely impractical advice >> http://google.decenturl.com/shipbuilding >> >> engaging teachers and getting traction in schools will continue to be a >> critical challenge, I think. It's the same reason that the Dynabook >> vision isn't yet realised - this is as much a cultural as a technical >> challenge. >> >> I've already learnt a lot here thrashing out some ideas with some here >> >> Pity to douse that cause it not solid coding - frustrating as that may >> be for the solid coders >> >> But if being a python developer or linux administrator is the main game >> or acid test of commitment, it seems to that the 'education project' is >> not really acknowledging the diversity of all 6 types ...which is not so >> good for 'group work' >> >> I'm encouraged I guess, that Papert et al seem at times almost >> indulgently philosophical on the challenges of using new systems and the >> inertia of schooling, as well as no doubt also being technical gurus - >> seems the big ideas are needed as well as the practical implementation >> >> Cheers >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:iaep- >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Farning >>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2009 6:01 AM >>> To: iaep >>> Subject: [IAEP] Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing >>> >>> In survey after survey, when schools ask employers what skills their >>> graduates are lacking 'working in groups' is always near the top of >>> the list. >>> >>> It has always struck me as odd that, after more than 20 years of >>> individual student work, a three credit class in group dynamics is >>> expected to fill that role. >>> >>> One on the most prevalent models for studying group dynamics is >>> Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing. While the model is not able >>> to perfectly represent Sugar Labs, it is still worth studying. >>> >>> Forming - The group comes together. Members have different >>> expectations. Goals are not yet clearly defined. In open source >>> terminology, participants are trying to figure out how to scratch >>> their itch. Some people may find that contributing to Sugar Labs >>> scratches their personal itch. Some may not. >>> >>> Storming - Because of the differing expectations and poorly defined >>> goals, conflict arises. This conflict was present at the November >>> SugarCamp. Rather than Rub salt in old wounds, I will ask you to >>> reexamine the events leading up to, the discussions at, and the blame >>> following SugarCamp. We must acknowledge that the storming is >>> uncomfortable for many people. >>> >>> Norming - As XOCamp wraps up, we are transitioning into the norming >>> phase. We have established some high level goals and have set some >>> expectations for behavior within the project. The most important of >>> these behaviors will be the notion of 'Show me the code', or 'Patches >>> welcome.' >>> >>> Performing - Once we have firmly established a respect for working >>> code, which we can then improve, rather then grand ideas, we will be >>> well along the way towards being a productive community. >>> >>> thanks >>> david >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received >> in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using >> attachments check them for viruses and defects. 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