you know what the irony is with all this... all we need to do to get those packs working is type ./configure --with-libabiword
I know because I took the painful step of doing it in from source... this problem has now existed for 8 months... u tell me if that is acceptable or not. u know the worst part of this entire debacle... only the packzge ,aintainer can fix this 2 second fix::: but obviously he has more important things to do. I aplogogize again for my tone... but this has gone to far... folks like u and me that are in the field selling this `crap`should not be remotemy having these issues... come on people... u want funding... let us do our job then!!! Nubae On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Carol Farlow Lerche <[email protected]> wrote: > Frustration -- yup. > > However, let's try to come up with a way forward that solves the problem in > the sort-of near term, and the frustration in the very near term. > > I too have been trying to run sugar on ubuntu and having frustration. So, > what I think would minimize the frustration is a known place to look for the > current state of what works, what doesn't work and why, and a way to work > around the problem till it has a permanent fix. It's obvious from the > sugar-ubuntu list that quite a few people are finding and fixing bugs, but > the fixes are in various stages of hitting the repositories. > > E.g. and correct if this is inaccurate, it looks to me like the first > problem you hit with write and jigsawpuzzle is that abiword hasn't been > repackaged to provide a "libabiword", and the people who can actually do > that (the abiword project) haven't bought into or gotten around to this > yet. So can someone provide a different package, even an rpm that could be > installed with alien? and could the location of where to get this be noted > in the "state of the sugar ubuntu nation"? Same with other known problems > that have been figured out but not percolated into a distributed fix. > > Rinse and repeat for SOAS and any other distros floating around. This would > at least make clear what is known to be wrong, and steps underway to fix. > > As for the second point, namely providing activities requested by teachers, > I agree it is important, and I think Wade has an almost-ready typing tutor > (google these lists for a prior thread on this). > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted >> upon (much more importantly) >> >> Im gonna try and make this easy: >> >> SoaS - the latest fedora core based >> I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one) >> Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed >> stick? >> >> ubuntu - >> no read >> no write >> no jiggzawpuzzle >> etoys >> scratch >> epathi >> measure >> anything tam tam based >> until very recently even browse >> pdf reader of any kind >> measure >> distance >> slider >> video chat >> abc flower (thing doesnt even exist) >> >> ok, that is about 50% of the failed testtube babies... >> >> >> what is the solution: >> >> we test the damn tings before release.... we do what greg >> dekoenigsberg quite elegantly suggested. a 3 tier solution: >> >> 1. make an educator mailinglist.... we get every educator we know on >> the list. We start off the discussion with what is really needed... >> the simple stuff... the stuff u guru coders can whip up in days: >> Examples: >> >> 1. typing tutor... all it should do is allow kids to follow whatever >> the teacher is directing. speed of typing is recorded? accuracy; graph >> based report; printable to parents... stars given to best pupils... >> >> guys these are real world scenarios... not invented by devs.. asked >> for by teachers qnd not surprisingly thinking why it does not yet >> exist. >> >> 2 same for maths... times tables/division/addition/substraction.... >> groupings of kids, reports, printibale to both parents ant teachers... >> >> >> 2. (gdk) guys this is what teachers want... I reallly hate to say >> this; but the stuff right now on sugar apart from speak, which when >> working every teacher loves, is an absolute waste of educators time... >> yes the activities can be properly used... but basics first! mailing >> list to get the, involved; we mention the activities that we (welll >> actually they) have come up with, we discuss very briefly; >> >> 3: (gdk)then make a moodle/wiki page where educators and devs get >> together to create the tools that we actually need (the ones that will >> really chqnge the world) >> >> I hope no one takes this is as a critcism of the effort put into >> creating activities till now; but people... lets frocus... lets sugar >> mean something for teachers >> >> David (nubae) Van Assche >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary > depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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