Generally speaking, I have to agree with Gary. I feel like I'm being invited to a Gallery opening, rather than being encouraged to try some software :)
I would really prefer to see something along the lines of http://getfirefox.com/ with content links pointing at well designed Wiki pages containing the content from this site. Anyway, the general structure of the site is really nice - I'm just wondering what its primary purpose is. And I'm a bit concerned with how much Wiki content is duplicated, and the fact that I have no idea how to change stuff, like adding the ActivityTeam to the contributors list for example. Best regards, Wade On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > On 27 Feb 2009, at 14:54, David Farning wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Christian Schmidt > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Sean. We are in the final stages of proofing content on the > >> betasite, > >> and think we will go live this weekend. Stay tuned! > > > > Christian, I officially withdraw any reservations I had about the > > new site:) > > Sorry to be negative here. > > I must admit I still really struggle with this site, I had hoped I'd > just seen a very early WIP. All those super large font marketing speak > text clippings surrounded by ellipsis; when you click one you're > jumped to another large font text /todo/ type list page, covered in > block highlights. That odd pop-up menu, permanently floating over the > same fixed place and in the way of the main text flow. Due to the > large font's, and unusual line spacing, there's a lot of up/down page > scrolling needed when really much of the content could fit on a single > pages. I'm also not sure what are navigation links are what are not > (non-standard, some coloured things are titles, some are links), or > what pages I've already been to (link colours change from page to > page, not based on visited or one). > > Not that I completely agree with everything he says, but I think Jakob > Nielsen (http://www.useit.com/) will have a coronary if he ever finds > this site ;-) > > Hopefully it's just a combination of the code not working correctly in > Safari, and/or me not being the target audience. > > --Gary > > P.S. In fairness I should also go through the site again and make a > list of things I did like (i.e. the page with grid layout of > activities, nice large colourful icons with simple clear descriptions). > > > I showed it around my nephew's elementary school yesterday; The > > teachers, teachers aids, and parents thought it was great! > > > > The most interesting aspect was the change from the dark to light > > background. They thought the dark, over welming, background > > represented what one 'expects' from computers and the light background > > was what you would 'want' from computers. > > > > david > > > >> > >> Christian > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Sean DALY [mailto:[email protected]] > >> To: ,Josh williams [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Cc: David Farning [mailto:[email protected]], > [email protected] > >> , > >> [email protected], Christian Marc Schmidt > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:05:48 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme > >> unity > >> > >> Greetings Josh! > >> > >> In fact lots of work has been done on this by Christian, see for > >> example: > >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo > >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website > >> > >> and, in beta: > >> > http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php > >> > >> > >> May I suggest you join the Marketing list? > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >> > >> We have IRC meetings on Tuesdays at 1600 UTC: > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/ > >> 000341.html > >> > >> > >> We are gearing up for the imminent Sugar 0.84 release. > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Sean > >> Marketing Coordinator > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:08 AM, ,Josh williams < > [email protected] > >> > > >> wrote: > >>> Hey David, > >>> > >>> I have had a quick look at the markup and the CSS, but I haven't > >>> actually had a look at the PHP. I laughed when I saw the Mozilla > >>> guys > >>> had an IE style sheet, but then I figured they were probably just > >>> reusing code. I was actually wondering if I could have a local > >>> copy of > >>> the remora code or access to a development or testing environment at > >>> some point? > >>> > >>> I also agree that we need a common branding for all of the sites, > >>> Gnome > >>> is a great example I think Mozilla and Ubuntu are good examples > >>> to. I > >>> think a splash page for www.sugarlabs.org built on WordPress or > >>> Drupal > >>> would be a really good idea also. It could explain the what the > >>> project > >>> is, have a download link to the latest version, link to the wiki, > >>> press > >>> release, news etc. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Josh > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> David Farning wrote: > >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help! > >>>>> I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I > >>>>> wonder > >>>>> off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make > >>>>> addons.sl.o > >>>>> look > >>>>> *more* like the other sl.o sites? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Have you gotten a chance to look at the aslo code? > >>>> > >>>> Things are kind of confusing right now > >>>> > >>>>> with the different styles of wiki, trac, addons, schools, > >>>>> gitorious, > >>>>> api, > >>>>> buildbot, etc. planet is the lone exception, it seems to follow > >>>>> wiki.sugarlabs.org nicely :) > >>>>> It would be great if the Design Team could comment on this > >>>>> decision. > >>>>> Here are a couple other web infrastructure ideas: > >>>>> + Improve theming consistency among various SL.o sites. > >>>>> + Single sign on cookie among all SL.o sites - perhaps OpenID > >>>>> based. > >>>>> + Standard nav header atop all SL.o sites rather than the > >>>>> various nav > >>>>> headers in different places, with different links. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> The various gnome sites such as build.gnome.org and www.gnome.org > >>>> are > >>>> very nice examples of common theming tying sites together. Some > >>>> thing > >>>> similar for SL would be great. > >>>> > >>>> david > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> + Better splash page for Gitorious, looking more like GitWeb - a > >>>>> page > >>>>> with a > >>>>> small search box at the top and the rest being a list of projects, > >>>>> sorted by > >>>>> recent activity, showing owner and last commit details > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> Wade > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ,Josh williams > >>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, I'm working on the design of sugar labs add-ons with Mick > >>>>>> Weiss. > >>>>>> I've created a mock up at > http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design > >>>>>> but I've haven't been able to contact anyone on the design team > >>>>>> as of > >>>>>> yet. I would also like to volunteer some of my time for other > >>>>>> projects. > >>>>>> I'm primarily a front-end designer with XHTML/CSS JavaScript > >>>>>> skills, > >>>>>> but > >>>>>> I also know some PHP/MySQL and have a background in Linux. I > >>>>>> also enjoy > >>>>>> creating icons, so if there are any activities developers that > >>>>>> need > >>>>>> icons please contact me. My portfolio is over at > http://tucsonlabs.com > >>>>>> . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you're a member of the design team or have some use for my > >>>>>> skills, > >>>>>> please let me know. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Josh > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > [email protected] > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >
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