Croquet (squeak virtual worlds) or seaside (smalltalk web apps) would be fine projects, if croquet isn't too 3d-resource-hungry. But IMO they do not have the same high priority as work on AJAX.
2009/3/18 Frederick Grose <[email protected]> > How about something in Croquet, > http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page, or Seaside, > http://www.seaside.st/, that would create a Sugar environment for the web, > say Honeycomb? > > I, too, need to spend more time under those hoods or in those > hoods. --Fred > > > 2009/3/18 Jameson Quinn <[email protected]> > > I think that for a GSoC project, we care less about development kits/IDEs >> like aptana, than about desktop-apps-with-AJAX solutions like Appcelerator >> Titanium, Mozilla Prism (and in closed-source world, Adobe AIR and Curl). I >> think it would be a great project to take Titanium or Prism and make a >> generic sugar-like hello-world which used Javascript to save to the journal, >> set some tags, open a file, coexist with Rainbow, and have a sugary toolbar. >> Whether you worked on that activity with Aptana or whatever is a separate >> issue. >> >> Disclaimer: I know nothing under the hood about any of the products >> mentioned here, so I could be totally wrong. >> >> Jameson >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Bryan Berry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> They don't compare currently but they are developing rapidly, >>> particularly aptana http://www.aptana.com. The great thing about aptana >>> is that there is for-profit company behind it that seems to do a good >>> job of sponsoring open-source development. >>> >>> Also, Apple, Palm, and maybe Android are pushing for js+html5 for all >>> apps place of flash. >>> >>> On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:47 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> > 2009/3/18 Bryan Berry <[email protected]>: >>> > > Felipe, >>> > > >>> > > "never bet against the browser" is absolutely true >>> > > >>> > > However, gnash is roughly 2-3 developer years behind macromedia >>> flash. >>> > > the big hurdle is adding support for ActionScript3 to Gnash. >>> > > >>> > > I don't think that better integrating Gnash into Sugar would be the >>> best >>> > > use of your time. The better bet is to integrate activities created >>> with >>> > > javascript + html5 into Sugar. >>> > > >>> > > I earlier advocated a framework called "Karma" for integrating flash >>> > > swfs into Sugar. I now believe that javascript + html5 is a much >>> better >>> > > bet because it better adheres to our common belief in open-source and >>> > > allows "View Source." Also, there are far more javascript developers >>> out >>> > > there than flash developers. This new rework of Karma could take >>> > > advantage of projects like jquery-UI and new javascript animation >>> > > libraries like processing.js and GX. >>> > >>> > That looks very interesting, but what about authoring tools for >>> > javascript+html5? Are any that compare to the flash authoring tools? >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Tomeu >>> > >>> > > You could start out by trying to recreate some of OLE Nepal's >>> existing >>> > > flash activities as javascript + html5. You can find some here: >>> > > >>> http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/E-Paath-2.activity/activity/Activity/MenuStage.html >>> > > >>> > > If you are interested in such a project, I am definitely be >>> interested >>> > > in mentoring you. I have to warn you though that I am professionally >>> a >>> > > project manager and not a software engineer. In fact my software >>> > > development skills are extremely limited beyond writing broken python >>> > > scripts. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Bryan W. Berry >>> > > Technology Director >>> > > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 15:37 -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: >>> > >> Flash is still not open source, and that creates issues when >>> > >> distributing it (Adobe does not let you include it pre-installed in >>> > >> images for download). >>> > >> >>> > >> Bryan Berry from OLE Nepal (cc:ed on this mail) has some good ideas >>> > >> about how that idea should work, though he's not signed up as a >>> > >> mentor. You should think about your design, and then discuss it with >>> > >> him AND on the sugar-devel mailing list. >>> > >> >>> > >> Jameson >>> > >> >>> > >> 2009/3/17 Felipe López Toledo <[email protected]> >>> > >> Thanks. >>> > >> >>> > >> I'm interested: >>> > >> SWF Sugar >>> > >> * Integrate SWF (Flash/Gnash) >>> > >> applications into Sugar. >>> > >> * Ideally, develop a demo activity >>> which >>> > >> could be used as a template for >>> > >> sugarizing Flash/Gnash activities. >>> > >> * Priority for Sugar: Very High >>> ("never >>> > >> bet against the browser") >>> > >> * Difficulty (as a GSoC project): hard >>> > >> * Skills needed: SWF/Python >>> integration >>> > >> >>> > >> why Gnash?, there is already a stable version of adobe >>> player >>> > >> for linux. >>> > >> >>> > >> really have very good ideas. Interesting! >>> > >> >>> > >> Greetings. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jameson Quinn >>> > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> >>> http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas >>> > >> >>> > >> Good hunting :) >>> > >> >>> > >> Jameson >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Felipe López >>> Toledo >>> > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> Hi. >>> > >> >>> > >> I'm Felipe López Toledo, a university >>> student >>> > >> I read your message >>> > >> ( >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/0cf911eb31087cd7?hl=en >>> ) >>> > >> I visited >>> > >> >>> http://sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=page&page=learners >>> > >> >>> > >> relly good work!. >>> > >> >>> > >> it would be nice to see you in the GSoC >>> 2009. >>> > >> by the way, do you have a project list? >>> > >> >>> > >> thanks. >>> > >> >>> > >> Felipe >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > -- >>> > > Bryan W. Berry >>> > > Technology Director >>> > > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Sugar-devel mailing list >>> > > [email protected] >>> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> > > >>> -- >>> Bryan W. Berry >>> Technology Director >>> OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >
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