This has been the most sobering email yet... practical and logical... lets see if we can keep going in a constructive route like this....
kind regards, David On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Caroline Meeks<[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be > linked to any one distro. > > The way I look at it is there are currently potentially three ways a kid can > get access to "their" Sugar. > > 1. One-to-One Laptops - Each kid gets a laptop. > 2. Virtualization - When you are connected to the network you have access to > your Sugar desktop. > 3. Sugar on a Stick - The kid has a USB or SD Card and carries that around > for use in different computers. > > None of these are inherently distro dependent and as the technology matures > there are more and more choices for each. > > Note that the vision is Sugar on a Stick may reboot the computer and/or the > same stick may run with a VM or LTSP. > > I thought we had decided to use Flavors? i.e. Sugar on a Stick Strawberry is > our current release and it is based on Fedora 11. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM, David Van Assche <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Sean... u stated it very correctly. Lets leave whats under the hood, >> there where its supposed to be... we are driving a car, and whether >> thats a mercedes, bmw or ford really shouldnt matter as long as it >> drives.... now if u want specific items in your car or u want your car >> to drive in a particular style and speed, then have a look see what >> the different car brands do and how they differ.... but just cause u >> like car X, doesn't mean that is the only term used to describe what >> it is you are driving... >> >> Thats just one simple analogy, but its relevant to just about anything.... >> >> SoaS = Sugar on a Stick is a generic term that doesn't in any way hint >> at what distro its aimed for. Thats the reason why I suggested sub >> SoaS to define distros, like FedSoaS, but whatever... if SoaS is what >> most people want to brand the fedora SoaS product, go ahead... but >> it'll confuse people for sure.. >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:29 PM, David Van Assche<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > ok, >> > This is becoming silly... >> > Fedora nor Sugarlabs (and I think I consider myself quite a central >> > contributor to sugarlabs) does not have a patent, trademark or >> > anything else that should somehow allow it to kidnap the term sugar on >> > a stick, which is a far too generic term to be kidnapped by anyone. I >> > will, and in public too, call any distribution that contains sugar on >> > a usb/SD or any other kind of stick Sugar on a stick (SoaS) as that is >> > what it technically is. I'll end the discussion at that as going any >> > further is probably going to spiral into something resembling a >> > non-sensical flame war. >> > >> > David Van Assche >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM, James Zaki<[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> +1 Bert and others >> >> >> >> <my2cents> >> >> Outside of the opensource world I've seen many non-mainstream groups >> >> become >> >> too thinly spread due the many dedicated individuals involved together. >> >> I've >> >> seen in first hand in a few different sports, and know of it in a >> >> couple of >> >> other examples, such as French left wing political parties. >> >> >> >> I dont want to repeat everyone, but I fully agree with SoaS being >> >> Fedora, >> >> and other distros a seperate thing for those want to do that. >> >> If distro support was a task for the sweet sugar people there would be >> >> less >> >> resources on actual sugar development. >> >> >> >> Forgive me, as I tend to have a habit of stating the obvious. >> >> James >> >> </my2cents> >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:53:48 +0200 >> >> From: Bert Freudenberg <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release >> >> flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC) >> >> To: Sugar-dev Devel <[email protected]> >> >> Cc: Marketing <[email protected] >> >>>, IAEP List >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> >> >> On 18.06.2009, at 20:28, David Van Assche wrote: >> >> >> >>> Soas = sugar on a stick.... whether that be on Fedora, Suse, debian, >> >>> or mandriva... they are all the same thing, and I would argue SoaS is >> >>> NOT a distro... just a dsitribution mechanism... for example, I call >> >>> my opensuse based sugar on stick SoaS too, as that is technically what >> >>> it is... >> >> >> >> You can call that whatever you want, but please not in public. SoaS >> >> means a very specific distro, not just any Linux+Sugar slapped onto a >> >> USB flash drive. >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Sean DALY<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> I beg everyone's pardon, I was under the impression that SoaS is >> >>>> Fedora-specific... are there plans to do versions based on other >> >>>> distros? >> >> >> >> No, there are no such plans currently. >> >> >> >> IMHO we should not water down the meaning of "SoaS". >> >> >> >> - Bert - >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > [email protected] > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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