On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 17:15, Nicco Eneidi<[email protected]> wrote: > > On Friday, August 7th, I presented Sugar to fifteen girls ages 10-13 who > > were participants in the Rosie's Girls Summer Program. Rosie's Girls was > > designed to build confidence in young female students and to introduce > them > > to non traditional career paths that they may not otherwise have been > > encouraged to explore on their own. > > > > The time I had with the students was limited (I had to beg my boss to let > me > > get away for an hour from imaging computer labs in other schools) and the > > mobile laptop lab that we used had not had their batteries charged prior > so > > we had to quickly steal extension cords from the janitors for power. The > > camp was held at the local high school so most classrooms were > unavailable > > and so we had to set up in the atrium. > > > > Using the atrium was a poor choice because it turned out to be a very > loud > > room and for someone to hear you from fifteen feet away you almost have > to > > yell; once you get a few giggly girls talking to each other it is near > > impossible to understand anything. > > > > I introduced them to Turtle Art, Speak, and the Physics activities. > Again, > > time was very limited so I wasn't able to go much into detail about > things > > but they were able to spend some time on each activity. Unfortunately the > > network was down in the building and I wasn't able to bring my own wifi > > router like I had planned. I think if we had been able to get online or > at > > least on the network that some of the things we did would have been able > to > > be expanded much better if they got to explore the collaborative aspects > of > > Sugar. > > > > At the same time all three of the camp counselors had disappeared while I > > was presenting Sugar and I think part of the noise issue was because they > > had taken off and the students didn't really know me at all and so maybe > a > > sort of "substitute teacher" energy was occuring which made the noise > issue > > worse. > > > > Some students were into it and I think understood what was going on while > > others were fairly confused as to what they were supposed to be doing and > > why. I can imagine going from welding and working on engines one moment > to > > playing with a new operating system the next can be somewhat confusing > and > > not as exciting (Welding, sparks! fire!). > > > > At the end I explained how to to safely handle the flash drives and how > they > > may be able to boot from them at home or other locations and they got to > > keep the drives. > > > > Later one of the councelors came back to help me clean up and apparently > the > > students were actually quite excited about Sugar and were all talking > about > > it in the next classroom. Sometimes it's hard to tell if a kid is into > > something and they may not show it to your face but later on it turns out > > they really enjoyed it. I'm still trying to learn how to pick up on these > > cues and what they mean. > > Congrats! > > > So, two questions about Sugar for possible future presentations: > > > > 1. Can Sugar be run in some sort of ad-hoc mode where laptops with wifi > can > > connect directly to each other and create their own network without a > > central AP/router? > > Yes, but this feature is scheduled to land in the next Sugar release > in about 3 months. That said, you can preview this feature on Sugar > 0.84 (Strawberry SoaS) by applying the patch linked from here: > > http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/ad-hoc-wireless-networks-in-sugar.html > > > 2. If all computers are connected to a network without internet access is > it > > true that if you take out of the jabber server address in the settings > menu > > that the computers on that section of the local network should see > > eachother? If so, how well does this actually work? Is it reliable to try > it > > with a group of students? > > Sugar can use mDNS to discover other machines _in the same network > segment_. People get confused because the distinction between a > network segment and the whole local network is not obvious to them. This is turning out to be a very important concept to explain to people. Does anyone know of any educational material that can help people understand this distinction and how to set up a network correctly. We should put this information here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Collaboration > > > This is the same underlying technology in Apple's Bonjour, so both > should work in the same network environment. > > That said, we seem to have some reliability issues that are trying to > track down: > > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/928 > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > For more info about the camp you can check out their site: > > www.rosiesgirls.org > > Thank You! > > -Nicco > > > > -- > > Niccolo Botticelli Eneidi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > [email protected] > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [email protected] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax
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