On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill, > > On 7 Sep 2009, at 12:09, Bill Kerr wrote: > > I can't see any way to load 2 instances on the SoaS version >> >> If I have a project loaded, saved and named >> Then go into the journal and try to load an older saved version then it >> doesn't load but puts me back to the current open version >> I have to first close the current version and then open the older version >> to get it >> > > This is not a bug with TurtleArt. It's (in my view) the major design > backfire that is the "Keep" button... Keep is not like a copy, duplicate or > 'save as' file operation in other OS environments. Sugars "Keep" is actually > a (bad) attempt at "Keep version snap shot", unfortunately no where in the > Journal UI is this visually indicated/referenced. Think of "Keep" a little > like non-linear undo states stored to Journal. > > The problem with all this is that Sugar currently treats all versions you > "Keep" from an activity as the same activity. You can only have one of the > versions active at once, this is what you're seeing when you try to resume > (what you think is another old activity is actually a version) and Sugar > switches to the current version of it you already have open. > > To create fresh new activities, you need to: > > 1) start new activity > 2) create masterpiece > 3) stop activity > 4) goto step 1 > > If you ever find yourself clicking "Keep" give your self a small jab in the > hand with a sharp protractor ;-) > hi gary, I'm doing some of the barry newell 40 shapes challenge I posted on another thread Some of the shapes are related to other shapes eg. after I do shape 6 then I want to Keep that as BN6 then use it again to make BN7, etc So I change the name in the box from BN6 to BN7 and click Keep It does work similar to Save As ... If I go to the Journal and click the arrow on the right the image represents the different versions But the confusion arises when I try to open an old version and just get back to the currently open version So I can achieve something like Save As ... but can't achieve opening two versions at once, as you say > > In every release of Sugar to date, "Keep" == horrible design failure, even > for the upcoming 0.86. The problem is "the real deal" (true versioning) is > always just over the horizon, like the pot of gold at the end of the > rainbow, and the blasted button some how makes it through (and causes way > more grief then it ever solves as the common use case is "I want a duplicate > copy of this"). > > Regards, > --Gary > > Also if I am working on a project and remember an idea from a sample >> project then I can't just load the sample view the idea and then quickly >> return to my current project to implement there >> I have to close current project, then open sample and view idea, then >> close sample, then reopen current project, etc. >> >> Please correct if I am wrong about this >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >
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