:-) while waiting we can make jokes, "la mora demora" :-)
Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Hi all. > > I like blueberry, in spanish we can call it 'mora'. i like mora's juice ;). > > > > > Rafael Ortiz > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: > >> thanks Martin >> >> in fact I often worry about talking too much during the marketing >> meetings, others not getting a word in. I'd be delighted if >> nonmarketing Sugar Labs team members lurked or participated, although >> I have clear ideas about how to work on marketing puzzles I'll never >> claim to have all the answers. >> >> re marketing course: in fact I have accepted Mel's invitation to do a >> classroom for Fedora. >> >> re logos: Strawberry=6, Blueberry=4, and 5 we'll use some other time >> >> Blueberry has been our "working" name for the next SoaS release since >> before the Strawberry release (we chose to have banners done in both >> red and blue logos so they would stay current longer) so I think we're >> all set with Blueberry? >> >> thanks >> >> Sean >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Dengler >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >>> >>>> I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering >>>> >>> You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard >>> to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a >>> directory...so I was hoping that you would just say "yes" or "no - use >>> [this one]" when I asked you: >>> >>> >>>>> Ah - so perhaps this: >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png >>>>> >>>>> ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png >>>>> >>> [Hoped for:] >>> >>>> YES - use #5 >>>> >>> [or] >>> >>>> NO - use #4 >>>> >>> But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: >>> >>> >>>> About the logo, it's the "blueberriest" one we will want, variant 4 >>>> >>> Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: >>> >>> >>>> the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry >>>> launch, variant 6: >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners >>>> >>> ...so it's...6?! >>> >>> So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said >>> second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one >>> of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? >>> >>> >>> >>>> No, there wasn't "marketing decided", it was Tomeu who thought of >>>> flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit >>>> since "natural" wholesome sugars, a "fun treat for kids"), and >>>> sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. >>>> >>> Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT >>> flavours: "Cherry-Oak" is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking >>> about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: >>> >>> >>>>>> [SeanDaly] >>>>>> >>>>> [Eben] >>>>> >>>> [Tomeu] >>>> >>>>>> Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo >>>>>> color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask "what >>>>>> color is the Sugar logo?" and match that to the version number. >>>>>> >>>>> I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty >>>>> awesome idea. >>>>> >>>> So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming >>>> releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc >>>> >>> When I say "marketing decided ice cream", I mean: >>> >>> 1) marketing came up with the idea: >>> >>> [11:16:41] <SeanDaly> So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based >>> on the boot logo color? >>> [...] >>> [11:18:38] <SeanDaly> caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can >>> really serve us >>> >>> 2) marketing championed it >>> >>> [12:30:02] <SeanDaly> sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? >>> [...] >>> [12:30:44] <SeanDaly> I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i >>> don't think we have a logo that color >>> >>> 3) marketing called the vote: >>> >>> [12:34:07] <SeanDaly> Can we go with logo 06 "Strawberry" for this >>> release? >>> [12:34:26] <SeanDaly> we can disagree all summer over the next one >>> (joke) >>> [...] >>> [12:35:54] <mtd> strawberry +1 >>> [...] >>> [12:36:24] <caroline> strawberry +1 >>> [...] >>> [12:36:49] <sdziallas> strawberry +1 from me, too ;) >>> >>> 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) >>> >>> It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is >>> nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. >>> If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). >>> >>> >>> >>>> The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked >>>> on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the >>>> development process. >>>> >>> Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? >>> >>> >>>> But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond >>>> the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, >>>> not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest >>>> and most fun one. >>>> >>> Ok, I'm convinced. >>> >>> >>> >>>> [marketing tips] >>>> Is this clear I hope? >>>> >>> That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should >>> teach a course! >>> >>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Marketing mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing >> >> > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
