> All I see is a lot of unproductive reinforcement of 4. "let's talk a > lot about tangential stuff to the detriment of letting SLOBs get on > with answering the original question[1,2]".
Patches welcome. Process and product are both important; the former builds our capacity to get on with making the latter. Think of those sections of this thread as a review request for a decisionmaking protocol. Rather than generalizing "I don't need this" to "nobody needs this," step back and think about why *somebody* (in this case, multiple somebodies) thought we needed something like it. What are they trying to accomplish? I highly doubt anyone here has the goal of "talking a lot about tangential stuff" - we're all trying to get our own stuff done too, and for whatever reason, some folks feel blocked and are (or were) trying to resolve that blockage in this thread. Transparency is hard. Consensus is hard. It's messy, slow, and requires more patience and empathy than I want to dreg up myself most days. I think most if not all of our community would agree that transparency and consensus are things we want to have; the price for it is occasionally hitting frustrating overhead. It is a tradeoff. For me, this thread has unblocked what I needed it to unblock; the issues I wanted to work through are now moving forward in other places. So I'm done with this thread, and won't comment on it any longer, because this worksforme. That doesn't mean it worksforeveryone, though. And if it doesn't, and they continue this conversation because they still need to unblock themselves, I hope the remaining people on this thread will be constructive and help them work things out so that they, too, can Get On With Things they actually want to do. Over and out, --Mel _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
