Gerald.. good to hear from you!! I think your idea is great.. I imagine something like learning plans JAM, like the ones developers host. I will support you on that!!
I also agree with Edward, they don't need to work alone. The greatest experience may be a combination on teachers and some volunteers who would be willing to help them with technical/practical stuff... I am up for it!! Where do you imagine this? Yama.. always impressed by your capacity to read and reply to conversations!! :) Hope things will be ok! On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote: > They won't have to get going completely on their own. There are more > of us who barge in everywhere and offer help. I have been wanting to > have many conversations with teachers for some time now. You can let > teachers know that some of us are willing to help create Sugar-based > lesson plans and software for any topic in any subject they teach, or > to answer any question about teaching or learning with XOs and Sugar. > We have several good Wiki pages for people starting out, depending on > their interests and needs. > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 19:49, Yama Ploskonka <[email protected]> wrote: > > Your question was to Claudia, but one of the many ways that endear people > to > > me is how quickly I barge in others' conversations :-) > > > > One suggestion: if they want to connect, don't stop them! let them > connect, > > please! > > > > There's a few semi-defunct email lists in English, for example Educators > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators > > which were meant to have this kind of exchanges. If any of them speak > > Spanish, please invite them to Sur, their presence would be very welcome > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur > > > > They may have to get going by themselves at first, as we get to encourage > > other teachers to come in. They can feel pioneers that way, and that is > > good, for my experience with lists is that it can take quite a while to > get > > the dynamics of communication to become self-sustaining. I guess the > people > > from Quebec could also be in this, and those from Birmingham, and maybe > even > > some almost lost tribes in San Antonio and elsewhere, that might just > need > > something like this to start moving. > > > > And of course they may come into IAEP itself. > > > > Good initiative, please don't give up! > > > > BTW, thanks for your comment, Claudia. It seems that the situation I was > > concerned about might just hold long enough that it is no longer a > problem. > > 6 more days! > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Gerald Ardito <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Claudia, > >> > >> I have been thinking about trying to write a grant to host a conference > >> for teachers. The goals would be similar to the programming blitzes > earlier > >> on, where the teachers come together and create best practices, lesson > >> plans, tips and techniques, etc. > >> > >> I think the social piece is critical. We expect the students using > >> Sugar/XOs to be social; the same is true, in my experience, of the > teachers. > >> At least the ones I am working with are really looking forward to > connecting > >> with other teachers. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> Gerald > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Claudia Urrea <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I do believe that Ceibal presents a great opportunity to do great > things. > >>> It is a great opportunity... I believe we all want to be given the > >>> opportunity to contribute. > >>> > >>> The best way to get people to appropriate technology is to have them > use > >>> it in powerful ways. Yes, more documents are needed, but focusing only > in XO > >>> and Sugar, and expect students and children to get comfortable as a > strategy > >>> to get them to do the good things is not going to happen. > >>> > >>> Teachers more than students need to good examples.. some have to do > with > >>> specific activities, and others with concepts that can be understood > and > >>> learned by using different activities. Creating examples that are > always > >>> part of a practical experience is good... even when introducing a > particular > >>> feature of the XO, or an activity. > >>> > >>> Yama.. i like your article in olpcnews! > >>> > >>> Claudia > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:41, Yamandu Ploskonka <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Yesterday I spent way too much time trying to figure out the > different > >>>> > press > >>>> > articles and opinion pieces in the internet around the delivery of > the > >>>> > "ceibalita" # 396.727, the "last" in Uruguay > >>>> > > >>>> > the main thing: Congratulations! > >>>> > >>>> Indeed. > >>>> > >>>> > the main thing: it's not enough > >>>> > > >>>> > It is clear that the LATU team headed by Ing. Brechner has done an > >>>> > almost > >>>> > incredible job, and even though there are excellent teachers there > >>>> > "giving > >>>> > us lessons" internationally, even though there are highly dedicated > >>>> > volunteers, the use of these machines in the classroom is not a > solved > >>>> > matter. > >>>> > Even if the most extreme opinions (both ends) are fruit of political > >>>> > interests, it is getting more and more clear that there is a lot of > >>>> > work to > >>>> > be done to make the XOs really a useful feature of the classroom > >>>> > > >>>> > I say we need to focus on what is easy, to gain buy in by the > majority > >>>> > of > >>>> > teachers > >>>> > > >>>> > when using the XO in class is easier for the teacher than giving > class > >>>> > without the XO, we will have won > >>>> > >>>> Then we know how to win. I am proposing a guide for teachers on how to > >>>> help students learn the XO, Sugar, and everything else with a minimum > >>>> of effort and a maximum of results. Then, as Brian Berry has pointed > >>>> out, we will need 10,000 topic modules with lesson plans, for every > >>>> school subject at every age, translated into more than 100 languages. > >>>> I have a plan for that, too, which I will tell you about later. > >>>> > >>>> Let's start with the XO and Sugar. When we can get teachers and > >>>> students comfortable with all of the features of the XO and Sugar in > >>>> general, and with certain essential activities, we will be able to > >>>> turn them loose on the Internet on any topic consisting primarily of > >>>> information. The harder topics are skills such as math, the arts, and > >>>> languages, where it is not enough to know. You must be able to _do_. > >>>> But put that aside, for the moment, along with the learning modules. > >>>> Let us think about what is required to get basic understanding and > >>>> competence on an XO with Sugar. > >>>> > >>>> I have been collecting the principal obstacles, which are listed at > >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.og/go/The_Undiscoverable. We need to think > about > >>>> the order imposed by dependencies, and put together a sequence of > >>>> lessons covering all of these. I'm ready to get to it, and you are > >>>> welcome to join in. > >>>> > >>>> > I may be wrong, and opinions are welcome > >>>> > > >>>> > meanwhile, my article > >>>> > > >>>> > > http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/last_xo_laptop_olpc_uruguay.html > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. I've started reading it. > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>>> > [email protected] > >>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > >>>> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > >>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > >>>> http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ >
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