On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 14:19, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_(GUI) > > There are errors (latest stable version, for starters) and omissions > (the Video section which doesn't have anything from our DailyMotion > channel) > > Would any Wikipedians in the house like to step up and volunteer to > improve that page, and check it from time to time?
Adding IAEP to CC because the subject is of interest wide enough. Have just had a short conversation on IRC with a GNOME hacker and he made some interesting points about how we are seen by a casual observer: (07:49:54 PM) DanielC: Sugar = desktop environment, right? 19:50 (07:50:22 PM) ***DanielC reads the Wikipedia page about Sugar. (07:50:24 PM) tomeu: not really desktop, rather learning ;) (07:50:47 PM) DanielC: Yeah, I thought I recognized the name from the OLPC thing. (07:59:39 PM) DanielC: The wikipedia is a bit vague about what Sugar is. "Tool of creative expression", "Learning environment", etc. 20:00 (08:00:08 PM) ***DanielC tries the Sugar Labs website. (08:00:38 PM) tomeu: yeah, yesterday the marketing team started a discussion about this (08:03:13 PM) DanielC: Ok, I've looked at the Sugar Labs website and I still don't know what it does. I think I'll wait for the marketing team to do its thing. (08:04:15 PM) tomeu: DanielC: think gnome-shell oriented to learning (08:04:38 PM) tomeu: it's difficult to explain in a single form that makes sense to everybody 20:05 (08:05:03 PM) DanielC: It sounds difficult to explain. (08:05:37 PM) DanielC: But basically it's a desktop environment for schools with young kids. Is that about right? (08:05:52 PM) tomeu: DanielC: yes, that's how I would explain it to someone in this channel (08:05:59 PM) DanielC: :-) (08:06:02 PM) tomeu: DanielC: this is my presentation for fosdem 2009: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/6/60/FOSDEM2009.odp (08:06:10 PM) DanielC: *click* (08:06:24 PM) tomeu: only that we don't follow the desktop metaphores, so desktop is misleading in that aspect (08:06:43 PM) tomeu: but then we have to use a term as vague as "environment" or "platform", etc (08:06:55 PM) DanielC: Ok, s/desktop environment/GUI interface/ (08:07:37 PM) DanielC: "GUI interface" is more concrete than "environment" or "platform" (Java is a platform). (08:08:03 PM) tomeu: yeah, that also works for some people (08:08:09 PM) tomeu: though many don't know what gui is (08:08:17 PM) tomeu: see, even the engineers from the deployments have trouble distinguishing from sugar and the rest of the distro (08:08:28 PM) tomeu: we get lots of questions about alsa or even about hardware issues (08:12:03 PM) DanielC: "It is a graphical environment for schools with young children. It is simple and child-oriented. The focus is on collaboration activities relevant to the classroom" (08:12:44 PM) tomeu: that's a good one, where did you got it from? (08:12:53 PM) DanielC: I just came up with it. (08:13:12 PM) walters: you should edit the wikipedia page (08:13:16 PM) walters: then it becomes standard! =) (08:13:24 PM) tomeu: DanielC: and after that, join our marketing team :p (08:13:32 PM) DanielC: I tried to hit most of your main points but in concrete language. (08:13:38 PM) DanielC: tomeu: :-) (08:14:09 PM) tomeu: DanielC: may I reproduce this conversation in our marketing ml? (08:14:17 PM) DanielC: of course (08:14:20 PM) tomeu: thanks Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
