On 4 Jan 2010, at 23:11, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Hi Caryl,
>
> On 4 Jan 2010, at 19:33, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary, (a fellow Mac person... yea!)
>>
>> I really want to do the Live CD rather than the USB version of SoaS... due
>> to the difference in cost. I can take them 20 CDs for what one usb stick
>> would cost!
>>
>> Can I just do it with a live CD? The usb would be just for storing work and
>> they can get their own.
>
> You can certainly burn the Blueberry SoaS .iso onto a CD and boot from and
> use it (just use DiskUtility on the Mac). It will obviously forget everything
> once you reboot, though there's nothing stopping you from copying some of
> your work over to a USB stick before you reboot – not a very good workflow,
> and misses the whole 'Journal auto keeps your work for you' concept. You will
> also likely run into some issues as metadata related to a journal entry is no
> longer stored once you copy an entry onto a USB. This is great for
> interoperability with other operating systems (e.g. draw a PNG with paint or
> use Write to generate an .odt file, other OS's can edit the files just fine),
> but it can be a problem for many activities** without correct MIME and file
> extensions defined correctly as Sugar no longer recognises the file type at a
> later date.
>
> ** i.e. even my own Labyrinth work seems to fail on this test, even though I
> spent quite some time setting up a valid MIME type and file extension and
> custom svg icon; the file extension seems to go missing once an entry is
> transferred to a USB stick and haven't sussed that issue out yet :-( Walter
> seems to have Turtle Art working now, so I should go poke through his code to
> see what I am missing.
Ooops, I must still be recovering from holiday cheer. Physics was the activity
all set up and working with MIME and extensions; I remember now, I've held off
doing the work on Labyrinth as folks don't seem to like Labyrinth as the
activity name. I'm dragging my heels as it seems a waste of time and IMO could
cause more confusion that it's worth (and a name change is not trivial, it's
referenced all over the place and will need re-translating), but if there is
consensus on a new name... the suggestions so far were:
Think
Connect
Conceive
Conceptualise
Organise
Map
Envision
Brainstorm
Outline
If there's no agreement or the community decides Labyrinth is not such a bad
name, all things considered ;-) I'll stick with it and add a matching MIME type
and file extension for the next release.
Regards,
--Gary
> Sugar Journal workflow to/from USB has taken quite a usability hit since
> 0.84, though it is _much_ more reliable as long as you are using standard
> file formats (i.e great for cross-platform interoperability). Perhaps Journal
> metadata could be stored a some type of .sugar_metadata directory or file for
> each entry? This might not be elegant to some, but it's how most other OSs
> have dealt with extra metadata content.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
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