On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:32, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On 20 Mar 2010, at 15:54, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Mel Chua <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The short version is that instead of "include all Activites by default," >>> we're thinking of shipping very few (6) Activities by default - the ones >>> that help users get further Activities and help >> >> I read Sebastian's post... and is less drastic than that. He seems to >> say: include only the well tested, known to work, actively maintained >> activities, with an eye towards activitries that serve as a good intro >> to the platform and that demo well. >> >> But you say only 6... Which one is it? > > This is what I see in the kickstart file: > > > http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas/repos/mainline/blobs/master/fedora-livecd-soas.ks > > # == sugar activities == > sugar-browse # Because they need this to install activities. > sugar-log # Because they need this for debugging. > sugar-physics # Because this is a great demo example (quick demo). > sugar-terminal # Because this makes debugging easier. > sugar-turtleart # Because this is a great demo example (extended demo). > sugar-xoirc # Because this helps us help them.
Not a bad minimum list, but what prevents us from installing a few more? What information do we have on which others work best? (Language support, no blocker bugs, really good demos of education...) I assume that we have to omit activities that depend on the camera or the sound system. I would like to see a few additions. o Write and Paint, excellent examples of collaboration o Chat for making friends, sharing tips and experiences, organizing collaborations o Pippy and Etoys for introductory programming o Scratch for multimedia I have not had any issues with any of them lately. Other votes, please. >> The initial proposal I like; makes a lot of sense and raises the bar. >> IT basically increases the chances of a satisfactory first use. >> >> Six activities not so much -- you need many steps + internet to add >> activities... and it'll be "random activity from ASLO, may well be >> unstable or useless". It significantly _reduces_ chances of >> satisfaction. >> >> All IMHO... > > +1, six does seem rather slim, more of a technical taster for a developer > audience (not necessarily a bad thing in the right context). Walter mentioned > perhaps making this a Fedora spin, rather than an official SoaS release aimed > at our real target users (teachers/children)? > > Regards, > --Gary > > P.S. I am worried about reports of several previously well working activities > that seem to be currently broken in recent SoaS builds (Write and IRC), > unfortunately I don't have time to often test under SoaS (other than the > official Blueberry) as well as my regular day to day sugar-jhbuild set-up > (F10). > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
