Walter Bender has also created a Turtle Art/Python path using programmable blocks. I did a presentation on it once showing some simple functions for graphing, and adding math functions from Python to Turtle Art. You start by assigning a single function call to a block, then an expression, then a few lines of code, then multiple blocks of code, and so on. There is also a path from Turtle Art to FORTH using the stack blocks. There are a number of Turtle Art/Logo packages such as UCBLogo. It would not be hard to add other language connections.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 21:09, <fors...@ozonline.com.au> wrote: > Soren > > I hope a non-Sugar anecdote is OK. > I had a year 6 (aprox. 11year old) student in my class programming in a > TurtleArt/Etoys/Scratch like drag and drop programming language with top end > extensibility through a scripting language. > He found a strategy game with quite complex coding in the scripting language > written by a Dutch programmer. All the variable names were in Dutch. > On his own initiative he passed the code through Google Translate > Dutch->English to find out how to increase the range of his laser turrets. > > For me this demonstrates that surprisingly young kids will do high end > hacking if four conditions are met: relevant, authentic, low entry, high > ceiling. > > Relevant: something relevant to your interests, like a strategy game > Authentic: real world useful, like a game your classmates will play > Low entry: easy to start learning > High ceiling: unrestricted growth and challenge (see Mihály Csíkszentmihályi > on flow) > > TurtleArt on Sugar has Python function and Python block extensions as an > attempt to provide an easy pathway from drag and drop programming to Python > hacking. I don't know how successful this has been with kids. > > Getting straight into Python programming is 'high entry', any significant > hacking I would expect to come from the TurtleArt/Scratch/Etoys pathway. > > Tony > >> I'm a curious outsider. Do kids actually hack sugar, change codes, do >> language translation, etc? >> Or is it just an option that they have with Sugar-FOSS? >> If so, where can I find some data on kids involved with >> sugar-hacking-activity? >> i.e. videos, community-discussions, documents, or your own descriptive >> observations >> >> >> regards Soren >> student in educational anthropology > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
