On 21.9.2010, at 20.48, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Teemu Leinonen <[email protected] > > wrote: >> The issue is even more important when the project is claiming to >> promote FLOSS culture, like in the case of Sugar. In my definition of > > That is _not_ the primary goal of Sugar. Sugar aims for lots of goals, > first and foremost, is about children as users, and their learning.
About 30 lines before the part you are quoting I wrote: "I think, it is extremely important to state openly that in the Sugar project one of the key approaches is the free software culture. I actually interpret it to be part of the "mission statement" or "sub- mission" that should guides the project and the software development." I naturally understand that there are many goals in this kind of project, but the approach (free software culture) is pretty clearly, and as I said I highly appreciate it, expressed in the web site in here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=page&page=education > One of the key aspects of the FOSS culture that is very visible in > Sugar is that it is something explorable, learnable, hackable (as > opposed to a black-box). Definitely and this is great. What I as an educator would find extremely fascinating is that FLOSS culture would be visible also in other aspects of the project: in the learning activities (I think it partly is) and in the whole design philosophy and practice of the platform. I think, this would require to give for the end-users (children and teachers) more freedom to be critical and constructive with the development. It could even mean facilitating and empowering them to do it. > Other aspects of FOSS are less applicable to primary-school age > children and their learning, so... Really? I strongly disagree. - Teemu ----------------------------------------------- Teemu Leinonen http://www.uiah.fi/~tleinone/ +358 50 351 6796 Media Lab http://mlab.uiah.fi Aalto University School of Art and Design ----------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
