On 02/16/2011 10:01 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[email protected]> wrote: >> Stepping back for a moment, the key question is: how can we get Sugar >> out of the window manager and network manager and activity update and >> UI toolkit business, where it's just not keeping up (and wasting our >> efforts), and concentrate on the stuff we're all really here for: >> enabling kids to learn and explore and share? How much can we strip >> away and still have Sugar? > > If you want to abstract away, get far away from the computer and the > OS and target HTML5. You'll have some significant limitations, but > that's the tradeoff.
I agree. IMHO, we either rewrite the Activities in W3C standards for
near-universal compatibility, or we don't rewrite them at all. In the
latter case, we could consider shifting to Meego or Gnome-shell, but both
are still dangerously beta.
> Forget about kids in those places ("they'll get broadband-quality
> internet... eventually") and yeah, we can do it all with JS and your
> favourite language on the server side.
FWIW, we've thought a lot about HTML as a toolkit for Activities that
don't need a network or server. Lucian Branescu wrote a lot of the code
as part of
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified
With some help from Michael Stone, we even drew up some ideas for
serverless LAN collaboration:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/WebCollab
I think we have a lot of great options and wonderful prototypes, but
without a command structure backed by cash very few of them will ever
reach production.
--Ben
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