At Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:55:59 -0400, Erik Blankinship wrote: > > Before completely dismissing the mac ppc architecture, it is noteworthy that > the platform has a bright retrograde future > in tablets. > http://blogger-off.com/apple-powerbook-g4-12-tablet/
Yup. A lesson we learned is that locking ourselves into one particular processor or OS is not a good idea, and trying to predict the particularity of future platforms is not going to work. Make things truly portable and adapt whenever a new thing come out is the right strategy. As Caryl pointed out, Etoys is designed to achieve this. A small self-contained virtualized environment that has very little external dependency seems to be a way to go. JavaScript on DOM may be good, and probably the key is to implement DOM in JavaScript so that it is portable to platforms with a JavaScript engine (along the idea of Dan Amelang) and perhaps write the grpahics engine also. http://github.com/damelang/mico/ Experimental version of Lively Kernel worked on it, so it may be a good direction to pursue... -- Yoshiki > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: > > PPC on Mac is also, unfortunately, a platform with no future, the last > machine having been manufactured in 2005. It's a tribute to Apple's > hardware quality that many are still around (I have G3s, G4s and G5s > still going strong, including one of the latter duals maxed out with 8 > Gb of RAM and 6 Tb of onboard disk) but the most recent MacOS (10.6) > does not run on them, nor does any version of VirtualBox. > > Sean > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Caryl, > > Running Sugar in any machine is not free, we must invest many,many, > hours > > of work, and the complexity of the plataform is increased. > > We need select out targets, we don't have infinite resources. > > Regards, > > > > Gonzalo > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I haven't run Android on anything since I took my Android phone back to > >> Verizon after trying and not liking it for a few days a couple of > years ago. > >> I am talking about running Sugar using whatever method can be devised. > The > >> easier the better! > >> I have run Strawberry and Blueberry in a Virtual Box on my MacBook, but > >> not without problems. I haven't tried the VB on the PowerBook I gave my > >> husband after replacing the defunct hard drive and getting a new > MacBook (no > >> longer new ;-( . I have been able to run EToys to Go on both of them > as well > >> as an eeePC I bought so I could experiment with these things. Etoys > project > >> files transfer seamlessly between all three of these machines. My dream > >> situation would be to have Sugar work the same way. > >> Caryl > >> > >> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:23:02 -0400 > >> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; > >> > [email protected]; [email protected] > >> > > >> > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Martin Langhoff > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Caryl Bigenho > <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> PCs and Linux machines yes. But... there still lots of issues with > >> > >> Macs and > >> > >> so far it does not work with the older G4 Power PC Macs (EToys to > go > >> > >> does!). > >> > > > >> > > Does Android run on your G4 PPC Mac?? Or is this all random talk? > >> > > >> > This week's work (Sugar-on-Chrome) provides a much better story for > >> > desktop compatibility. > >> > --scott > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > [email protected] > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > [2 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>] > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
