If XO printing or mobile printing could be set up easily, I think there would be an activity or install by now. I am waiting for Google Cloud Print to open up more: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/p/cloudprint.html http://code.google.com/apis/cloudprint/docs/overview.html
Right now you can use their website and the Chrome browser to register printers on Windows machines, and use a JavaScript API to order an online PDF to be printed. -- Nick On Fri, May 13, 2011 11:40 pm, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011 2:30 am, nanon...@mediagala.com wrote: > >> />moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: >> >>> It is straightforward to share Journal entries between XOs. >>> > > although not over mesh networking. > >> *>..Printing is not necessary.* >> ------------------------------------------------------------/ >> > > I said also that printing was useful. Further comments below on your > comments. > > It is possible to set up XOs to print, but it requires installing the > CUPS > printing package, and it means plugging into a USB printer for each job. > > What we want is a school server with a printer, and a robust way to use > the wireless on the XOs to access it. Mesh networking is utterly unreliable > in the classroom, so we have to fall back to regular WiFi and Jabber > servers, or to a Web-based interface where one can upload a file or a > Journal entry and schedule it for printing. There are a number of > technical problems with this, which we need to put serious effort into > fixing. We also have to work on the user interface. > > I will be happy to assist. Is anybody working on this in PLAN Ceibal? > > > Step 1. Collect user requirements in the form of use cases > > > * Who wants to print what, when, for what purposes? > * Do lots of children want to print at the same time? > * Is it acceptable to queue print jobs for later pickup? > * Color or black & white, or a mixture? > * Documents from other sources, or Journal entries, or printing from > activities? * What sizes? (Metric vs. US; letter vs oversize and undersize) > * Should teachers schedule printing, or should students, or both? > * How much printing can a school afford? > * How will we manage permissions and privileges? > * What else have you heard from teachers and students? > * Which use case has highest priority? > > > Step 2. Triage > > > * Which use cases do we know how to support? > * Which use cases are most important? > * Who should decide what to do next? > * What minimizes the current pain? > > > Step 3. Implement first-cut solution > > > * Who will do the work? > * What oversight will there be? > * How do we test the solution? > * Did we solve the right initial problem? > > > Step 4. > > > * Lather, rinse, repeat > > > I hope this helps. > > > Who is willing to work on this problem? > > >> Mr. Mokurai: >> >> >> MAybe you are an expert in Education, and Xo, or SUgar development, or >> teaching children, > > I reject the title of expert. I know a little, but mostly I know how > little I know. I am Project Manager of the Sugar Labs project to Replace > Textbooks with Open Education Resources, not because I know how to do it, > but because I am the only one who sees its importance as I do, and is > willing to do the work, and to find out how. > >> but I think that you don't KNow the reality of the XOs here in Uruguay, >> or somewhere that the teachers uses XO. > > My Spanish is bad, and I have not been to Uruguay, true. I am working on > both of those problems. I know how I use my laptop and my two XOs, which > does not include printing, unless an employer or a government agency > insists. > >> *"Printing is not necessary"* is a very good statement , I agree, but >> for the real people (not the theoretical children) is only a statement, >> that is almost impossible to apply now. It is like saying "The peace is >> better than the war"... is a very good phrase, we all agree, but with >> that phrase I can not solve the problems of the world. > > I have some ideas on peace, but they will take at least a generation to > work out. I am counting on our millions of children to help out after they > learn how to work with each other around the world. See The Evolution of > Cooperation, by Robert Axelrod, for a theoretical outline of an > approach. > >> The real world exists, and* in the real world the teachers wants to >> print.*. that is a fact, and We can not change it. Maybe in 30 Years the >> mind of the Teachers will change, but not now. > > Yes, I am very clear on the difference between "want to" and "need to". > It > was one of the main topics of my seminary training. > >> MAybe in 30 Years this statement will be true, but now if you told a >> TEacher that you can't print is the same as saying _"don't use the >> Xo's. You have a XIX century mind. The XO are made for XXII century >> minds only"._.. > > A XV century, pre-Gutenberg, approach works quite well, actually. We need > to adjust our thinking more than theirs. > >> This is not my opinion, it's simply an observation of the real world >> that I see that here in Uruguay: _there are a lot of teachers that don't >> Use the XO_ because of lots of problems that it has (there are also >> other reasons that are non technical). One of those problems are the >> "printing problem". >> > > As expected, until we get XOs into the full curriculum in the teachers' > colleges. > >> ---------------- >> >> >> You said to "share the Journal". Excuse me, Mr. Mokurai:_* *_Do you >> Know that the MEsh doesn't works????? >> > > Yes, I do. You can share journal entries on USB flash drives, or over > Jabber servers. > > >> Even if you can share something, The XOs hangs up, or loose the entire >> journal, and the children don't use the journal for "important >> things", that's why the teachers wants to print!!!! to have something >> "hardware" >> that works, even if the XO hangs, or the "journal" fails. > > Again, we need serious work on school servers, including regular backup > of student work. > >> I Invite YOu to come to Uruguay to teach us how to share something in a >> real classroom with real Children . NOrmally if YOu would share >> something, YOu have to use 30 minutes of an hour-class only for setting >> up the connections, and interrupting the class every 10 minutes >> because a child had a disconnection. > > After I learn to speak Spanish rather more, not just read, and whenever I > can get funded. > >> -------------- >> >> >> Sorry for my poor English. >> > > My Spanish is far worse than your English. My Russian teacher, who also > taught Greek and Hebrew, always said, "If you aren't making mistakes, you > aren't learning." > >> Paolo Benini >> Montevideo >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > -- > Edward Mokurai > (默雷/धर्ममेघश > ब्दगर्ज/دھر&# > 1605;میگھشبدگر > ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep