On 01/15/2012 09:44 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
OK. I'll make a Pineaple Live CD for the Mac on my Mac. Can I make a live CD on my Mac that will run on a PC?

You can burn an .iso file on the Mac in DiskUtility.app that works on PC's and Intel Mac's Trisquel 5-sugar will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows boot)- connects only with a USB D-Link DWL-122 Dongle
-sees jabber
-record 87 (Update) sees Mac Camera and takes pictures
-not all activities work

Pineapple 64 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless, wired not seen) Pineapple 32 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless, wired not seen)

hold "option" key down until windows or EFI appears.  wait can be 10-20 sec.

Note: Latest SoaS versions do not seem to have a working EFI boot anymore. Fedora must have made some changes : (

>All CD's will boot an intel PC<

All CD's were burned on my i7 MacBook Pro tonight to test for you.

Cordially

Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on #sugar
Thanks again

-C

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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:41:22 -0800
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Crunch Time



On 01/15/2012 09:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:



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    Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:16:48 -0800
    From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: Crunch Time



    On 01/15/2012 09:05 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

        Hi!

        I didn't expect an answer so fast. Thanks!  Sounds
        like Trisquel 5-sugar will be perfect for what I need.  For my
        Mac I can use a Virtual Box (or Parallels?), but to have
        something that I can give to everyone, I guess Trisquel 5
        would do very nicely.

        I had Parallels and Windows 7 installed on my new MacBook Pro
        so that I can run a health program (diabetes) that is only
        available for Windows.  I was having some boot problems and
        thought it might be due to them. So I have temporarily
        uninstalled them.

        Is Pineapple stable enough to hand out to newbies?

    Yes I recommend it (32 bit) if you want it for PC's (no mac boot)
    though you can burn the CD from an .iso on your Mac.
    Trisquel will also work though some pippy examples do not work on it.
    They do in Soas-v6 Pineapple

    /I'll switch to italics to  make it easy to follow. I need
    something that will run on any intel machine so I can give the
    same CD to anyone, regardless of their machine preference.  Does
    such a version exist?/
    /
    /

If you mean intel MAC's;
Not really.
64 bit f16-SoaS will boot on some PC's (some intel Atom and 64 bit dual core processors) and ON A SUBSET OF intel Macs but EFI Boot on a MAC requires a wired Cat5 network connection . THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL VERSION ATM.

If that is what you want It does not exist yet.

Sorry I have given you the best recommendations in the previous e-mails.

Look again for reference:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB

Cordially;

Tom Gilliard


    /Thanks again... Caryl
    /
    Regards;

    Tom Gilliard
    satellit_

        Caryl

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        Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:58:55 -0800
        From: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: Crunch Time



        On 01/15/2012 07:07 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

            Hi Tom,


            It's crunch time!  I finished both slide shows I needed
            for SCaLE 10X and am now working to find the one version
            of SoaS that I can put on a Live CD for distribution at
            our booth and demo in my presentation.  Someone has
            suggested Trisquel.  But, isn't it mostly for little kids
            (first grade)? I want one that includes Pippy and Turtle
            Blocks (Art), if at all possible.


        Caryl;

        Trisquel 5-sugar (Toast)  has Turtle Art 120 and Pippy 43 on
        it. (Pippy does not run the Camera and Physics examples.)
        It also has  Etoys 116
        Software Update (new applications) will load Turtle Machine 10

        SoaS-v6-Pineapple has Etoys 116; Turtle Art 120; and Pippy 43
Software Update: includes upgrades to Turtle Art 131 and Pippy 44 (camera and Physics examples work)
        RECOMMENDED

            So what version will work most "universally"  on Macs
            (Intel) and PCs on a "Live CD"

        64 Bit Soas v6 Pineapple boots both ways. But the EFI Boot is
        unable to see the wireless
        (64 bit is not as universal as 32 bit)

        I still recommend installing VirtualBox 4.1 for OSX and to
        import this appliance from
        http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple

            *RECOMMENDED*

                firstboot has not yet run; so a new user name and
                password will be set for the gdm login on startup for
the first time
            Built 11/13/2011 with Virtualbox 4.1.4 for OSX
            How Built: *root=sugarroot* 4-GB VirtualBox hard disc
            English and English keyboard USA-Los Angeles (Pacific
            timezone)
            *download and import 2 files:*

        
http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL-disk1.vmdk
        http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL.ovf

        VitualBox works with the Mac Wireless properly


            Will your instructions for burning a live CD in Disk
            Utility on the wiki make a CD that will play universally?


        Yes I tested it on my ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 and on the Mac
        Powerbook i7
        It boots the CD in each case. From any CD .iso you choose.

            I downloaded Mirabelle in the 64 bit version.  I think
            that is a mistake. It won't be universal.

            So which one should I try.  The downloads take several
            hours. My internet only does about 75 Mb/sec/

        If I had only one: f16-Soas-v6 Pineapple (32 bit)
        http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads
        RECOMMENDED

        Cordially;

        Tom Gilliard
        satellit_
        Note:
        Look at this to see which activities are compatible with
        SoaS-v6 Pineapple
        http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix



            Thanks!

            Caryl


            P.S. If you have time, you can save me some time by
            sending links.


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