But for this last one, I will avoid crossposting on this subject unless
something major happens (follow the Hackaday thread for more,) your
concern for what "teacherless" might mean was addressed there this morning
"Just like with Sesame Street, The only self learning here is a child
deciding to turn on an appliance. From there it's instructors(Human no
AI here) doing the teaching. Just as in as in Sesame Street, and in
bring & mortar class rooms the teachers are required to keep the lessons
engaging to keep the kids wanting to attend class. Not that I'm saying
this can't have value in helping disadvantaged persons, but it really is
going to depend on many creative long distant teacher as much it will
the kids. To hack the camera the kids had to know or figure out in some
manner there was a camera available that could be made to function.
Reads to me like that was a situation was set up so the kids could find
a route to get the camera working. Part of the research?"
As to reports from former research, there are blogs around, of all
kinds, but I have found little that would offer objective data on *what*
activity is being used how much, etc.
There has also been research in the US, also scant data.
My own research is worst... :-(
I should write, if I can't of success, at least about the several shades
of failure I have met. Boy, did I...
On 11/01/2012 02:10 AM, Jerry wrote:
I'm not sure why researching on kids in a foreign country is a good thing.
One of the criticisms of OLPC is that it's research on other populations.
And it could keep some people/ countries from adopting XOs
What ever happened to the Africa summer deployments? I never got much
information back about it. The ClassActs book sprint didn't include it...
Teacherless is interesting as self directed is pretty much
constructionist, no? ( I'm not an education theorist, btw)
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On Oct 31, 2012, at 22:08, Mike Lee <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Some other tidbits from my notes:
1) The Motorola Xoom WiFi laptop was passed around during the talk
and I made some photos of the app drawer screens:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157631821883809/with/8109891926/
2) The use of the impressive Funf framework from the MIT Media Lab
was described where software probes were activated in the Android
operating system to collect sensor and system data.
http://funf.org/
3) The work of Dr. Maryanne Wolf of Harvard was mentioned many times.
I have bookmarked her comprehensive lecture on YouTube.
The Science of the Reading Brain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ephYMS16Q&feature=g-crec-f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ySESQ5Oc4&feature=g-crec-f
Mike
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Yama Ploskonka <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
From a research standpoint, this decision by the Ethiopian gov is
great!
Doing this in English avoids all sort of "noise" from family,
etc., who might "help" outside of the research.
In the back of my brain I recall someone doing some research here
using Klingon, for this very reason.
The half-full glass is in the Ethiopian kids gaining some
English, which eventually will be required to do as they continue
their schooling. I can't see a similar advantage for Klingon,
though :-)
On 10/31/2012 08:29 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
Hi Folks,
Actually, C.Scott did post the videos (it is in 2 parts) and the
accompanying slides on his blog at
http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html
For anyone who missed it, it is worth the time (60-90 min?) to
watch it.
As you will see, it is a "pre-pilot" sort of a "proof of
concept" project. The children did not learn to
read, but 55% did show that they were "pre-literate" at the end
of a year based on getting 12/15
correct on a letter recognition test.
One huge obstacle to their learning to read is that, at the
request of the Ethiopian government, the
lessons are in English. The children speak only Amharic.
Long ago, when I was taking classes for ESL certification, we
were taught that children should be
taught to read in their home language first. The decoding skills
transfer if it is an alphabetic language
and probably other alphabets but not completely true for a
character based language such as Chinese.
That is probably why the Chinese government invented the
phonetic pinyin system.
Caryl
BTW... C.Scott and Chris describe the theory and methods behind
the project and data. It is a very well
designed study that meets all of the requirements for good
academic research.
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From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:04:15 -0700
CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell in the wild?
Here! Here! Cheers for Chris Ball and C. Scott Ananian (a
brand-new Daddy) who were our "house mates" at Casa Sarandi in
Montevideo.
Two great guys and supporters of Sugar Labs and OLPC in every way.
Caryl
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:41:32 -0400
> CC: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell in the wild?
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 31 2012, Mike Lee wrote:
> > That experiment did not involve anyone from Sugar Labs or the
> > community. The article is based on an education panel at
EmTech 2012
> > that, for some reason, has not been posted as video yet. Check
> > here: http://www2.technologyreview.com/emtech/12/
> >
> > But Matt Keller and the OLPC Association team who ran the
project went
> > into great detail in their talks at the OLPC SF Summit over
a week
> > ago. The Livestream on the subject has been archived and is
viewable
> > at the these links:
>
> A minor point: I consider myself part of the Sugar Labs community
> and expect that C. Scott does also; maybe others from the team
too.
>
> - Chris.
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