I work as a researcher for a foundation which received a grant proposal for a 
laptop project. There were several issues which needed clarification. I suppose 
that can be seen as trolling.

Thanks and good luck with you project.


Friday, April 17, 2015 8:11 AM -03:00 from Gonzalo Odiard 
<[email protected]>:
>Dan,
>
>You was qualified as a troll because you said we should divide the 3M number 
>by 10 and you assume we were deceiving.
> 
>See the Wikipedia definition of troll:
>"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord 
>on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting 
>inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community 
>(such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of 
>provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting 
>normal on-topic discussion.[3]"
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
>
>You asked your question in a thread started to discuss how improve the content 
>of  sugarlabs.org site.
>The site was not updated on a time, then if is true a percentage of machines 
>can be broken now, 
>was not crazy correlate the number of machines sold with our software to 
>number of users
>at the moment the site was created.
>But we also know there are cases where other hardware is used with Sugar, like 
>here [1]
>and we know the numbers in Uruguay only, are more than 300.000 machines, then,
>your comment looks completely wrong.
>
>At times I also think we are "too optimistic", but we need optimism
>to work in a project like this. Don't assume bad intentions.
>
>The worst part is I have tried to start a discussion abut how to improve the 
>web site,
>and instead of that we discuss about one line in the old web site,
>and do not have any proposal for improvement. And that is the effect of 
>trolling,
>stop others and not add anything positive to the conversation.
>
>Everybody here can contribute in a different way: programming, testing,
>go to remote places and put solar panels in schools, write docs. 
>But not everybody _want_ contribute.
>
>Gonzalo
>
>[1]  http://www.fenix951.com.ar/nuevo_2013/noticia.php?id=4552
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dan Tenason  < [email protected] > wrote:
>>A few weeks ago I raised the question about how phrase three million daily 
>>users was calculated. The general line of thought in a thread on sugar-devel 
>>was we don't know but we think it is an optimistic figure based on the total 
>>number of laptops OLPC produced. Further analysis is hard and we can't be 
>>bothered to do it. Furthermore, anyone who questions the number is a troll.
>>
>>It would seem natural that an education project which promotes critical 
>>thinking would substantiate its own claims. If any organization tries  to 
>>bury the numbers, one should ask why they are doing so.
>>
>>-- 
>>Dan Tenason
>>_______________________________________________
>>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>[email protected]
>>http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
>
>
>-- 
>Gonzalo Odiard
>
>SugarLabs - Software for children learning 
>_______________________________________________
>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>[email protected]
>http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
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