On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> wrote:
> To reply would require naming names, times, and places. I prefer not to > get that personal. The issues I refer to have been discussed at length by > others in the past. > I had asked you off list so that you could choose to be discrete regarding public airing of indiscretions. I remain ignorant of what you are referring to and would appreciate a response. I'd also like an explanation of seeming contradiction between your position regarding earmarked funds: on the one hand you say you don't want to provide general funds because they can be used generally and on the other, you suggested that earmarked funds be used generally. I am confused. regards. -walter > > Caryl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 24, 2016, at 5:31 AM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi All…. >> >> Busy time for us so I haven't had a chance to chime in on the motion for >> "dues." I personally do not care to contribute any unearmarked funds to >> SugarLabs. I am not at all pleased at the way funds have been carelessly >> disbursed to a select few in the past and feel no need to send my good >> money off to be used in a similar fashion. >> > > This is a serious accusation. (A) I am not aware of any carelessly > disbursed funds; (B) you recently suggested (in a comment on the Financial > Manager motion) that the earmarked funds should be spent on whatever we > want, since "times change", a notion I strongly object to. I would > appreciate a clarification. > > regards. > > -walter > > >> Every year at tax time we enumerate our contributions in support of >> SugarLabs, and other sub-organizations, and I can assure you they are >> substantial They include such things as expenses to attend conferences, >> booth banners, printing costs for hand-outs etc. We reach hundreds of >> potential Sugar users and, occasionally, potential Sugar "contributors." >> >> Meanwhile, SugarLabs funds are freely distributed to others to cover >> their expenses to do similar things and other things that have far smaller >> "returns on investment." So, although I cannot vote on this (since I am not >> a member of SLOB), I do want to voice my opposition to this motion. >> >> I am not alone in this. >> >> I think if it passes you will lose many members who are strong supporters >> of Sugar and open source but feel, as I do, that SugarLabs is not the only >> way to do it. Put simply, they will "vote with their feet." >> >> I have no objection to contributing something "in kind" in lieu of dues… >> a new banner, some clever swag or the like to use in marketing Sugar and >> SugarLabs. But, dues… no thanks! >> >> Caryl >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:00:14 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> CC: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Re: [SLOBS] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations >> + Public Statements >> >> >> Hi! >> >> On 23 May 2016 at 09:44, Tony Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am not aware of any method to donate money to Sugar Labs. I understand >> we need to make the donations to SFC and somehow have the money arrive in >> our funds. >> >> >> That's right. >> >> The #1 service for member projects listed at http://sfconservancy.org/ >> members/services/ is: >> >> *Tax-Deductible, Earmarked Donations* >> >> Member projects can receive earmarked donations through Conservancy. >> Since Conservancy is a 501(c)(3) charity incorporated in New York, donors >> can often deduct the donation on their USA taxes. Additionally, the donors >> can indicate that their donation should be used to advance a specific >> member project, and those funds are kept in a separate account for the >> member project by Conservancy. This structure prevents developers from >> having to commingle project funds with their own personal accounts or >> having to set up their own project specific account. >> >> Since Conservancy is a tax-exempt organization, there are some limits >> that the law places on what member projects can do with their assets, but >> those limits are the same as if the project was an independent non-profit >> entity. Usually, the project leadership instructs Conservancy's leadership >> on how the project's funds are spent. Conservancy spends these funds on the >> project's behalf on any expenses that constitute appropriate activity under >> Conservancy's 501(c)(3) not-for-profit mission. Some typical uses of >> earmarked donations by Conservancy's member projects are: >> >> >> - funding travel expenses for project developers to attend relevant >> conferences. >> - domain name fees, bandwidth costs, and computer equipment >> purchases. >> - purchasing media for distribution of project software at >> conferences and events. >> - paying key developers on a contractual basis to improve the >> project's software and its documentation. >> - sponsoring and organizing conferences for the project. >> - trademark registration and enforcement. >> - FLOSS license enforcement and compliance activity. >> >> >> http://sfconservancy.org/donate/ says, >> >> *Donate to Our Member Projects* >> >> >> Finally, Conservancy also maintains directed donation programs for its >> member projects. Donation links for these directed donation programs are >> typically found on the individual websites of our members. >> >> >> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Donate says, >> >> Mail us a check >> >> Please make your check payable to: >> >> >> Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. >> >> and place this note in the memo field: >> >> >> Directed donation: Sugar Labs >> >> Checks should then be mailed to: >> >> >> Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. >> >> 137 MONTAGUE ST STE 380 >> >> Brooklyn, NY 11201-3548 >> >> USA >> >> >> This needs to be made very clear on the web site. >> >> >> Sure :) Please draft something for what you think should be on the >> website donation page :) >> >> >> I am not referring to 'lying', I am referring to asking the question. If >> it is a donation, a person can donate what they feel comfortable with. >> >> >> I don't understand your point :) >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An >> Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > <http://www.sugarlabs.org> > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
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