2016-06-13 19:05 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>:

> I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of
> potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have been
> stored and maintained.) They could well have dead batteries (both the main
> battery and the battery for the RTC). They most certainly will need an
> investment in time by someone getting them unlocked and reflashed as well.
> That said, if we go that route, I have two bulk battery charging racks we
> could add to the mix.
>
> Google just donated 8000 chromebooks to the X-Prize. Maybe we could try to
> go that route?
>
>
Reading at http://learning.xprize.org/about/guidelines I found that
registration to participate in the competition is now closed. Is this the
same you are suggesting?

-walter
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Samuel Greenfeld <sam...@greenfeld.org>
> wrote:
>
>> FOB (Freight on Board) means that the responsibility for customs fees,
>> shipping charges, etc. belongs to the buyer.  XOs directly purchased from
>> OLPC historically had similar terms.
>>
>> The shipping calculator on that listing can give you a rough idea of what
>> it would cost to get to you in the US (around $500-$1000 uninsured).
>>
>> Personally I think it is a waste of funds and time given that someone
>> will have to go through all 172 XOs to verify their functionality,
>> determine which 10-year-old batteries still can hold a charge, make
>> repairs, etc.  It would primarily be of interest to projects which already
>> get donated XO-1s and could salvage parts of necessary, but not necessarily
>> at the $4k price point.
>>
>> Reselling the laptops as usable also would incur a bit of liability that
>> the recycler (selling as-is) is not willing to take.  About the only good
>> thing is that this recycler does not appear to be shipping from
>> Massachusetts, where one recycler was selling pre-release parts even after
>> being told they were not usable by anyone else.
>>
>>
>> While we seem to have discovered Sugar Labs has money this year, Sugar
>> Labs is not a bank for everyone's little pet project.  *Before* we spend
>> any significant portion of funds beyond the significant amount already
>> allocated for stipends & translation, I would like to see proof that Sugar
>> Labs can fund raise most of the money already spent back.
>>
>> The only valid way I could see doing this would be to ask the recycler if
>> they would be willing to just donate the laptops to the SFC (or another
>> 501(c)3 registered XO-using nonprofit) and take the profit as a tax
>> writeoff.  But *before* this gets done, it really needs to be discussed by
>> Sugar Labs' board {NOT people begging the recycler to do so via individual
>> actions - if anything that would encourage them to raise their expected
>> price}.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> they mean loading dock i.e. where you send the truck
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Sam Parkinson <
>>> sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says:
>>>>
>>>> >  Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup
>>>> and insurance from our dock
>>>>
>>>> Is that referring to the charging docks or the palette of laptops?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously this is a small detail that doesn't effect the discussion,
>>>> but it would probably change the figures a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-172-OLPC-One-Laptop-Per-Child-XO-1-w-7-5-TFT-256MB-RAM-1024KB-ROM-/262478690514
>>>> I propose that Sugar Labs buy these, image them with the 0.110 release, and
>>>> sale them to raise funds; individual units regularly clear $100 each, so
>>>> this will raise around $13,000
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