Hi Tony,
These two guys seem to have their acts together on this one but are
having difficulty getting it approved because people feel they may not
be able to get all their "ducks in a row" in time to make it happen.
If there is any help you can give them... advice, people to talk to to
get it ready etc. it would be really great. They still lack one SLOB
vote for approval. Too bad Samson can't vote for his own proposal 😏
Caryl
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*Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch
Conference (Adam Holt)
Samson and Ibiam will need a Shengen visa
(https://buzznigeria.com/schengen-visa/).
This is handled by the Consulate of France in Nigeria in Lagos
(http://www.vfsglobal.com/France/Nigeria/)
I would recommend they add a couple of days to the trip to visit Paris.
They could fly to Paris de Gaulle, take the train to Bordeaux (leaves
from the terminal) and then return by train from Bordeaux. OLPC France
plans to have some folks there who can help with the arrangements. I
expect to be there as well.
Tony
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> Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 13:29:47 -0400
> From: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org>
> To: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference
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> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully
>>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an
>>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
>>> approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
>>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level
contact
>>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the
visa will
>>> be approved?
>>>
>> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.
>>
> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single
> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the
French
> government might be the best way.
>
> 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in
advance,
>>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not
reassuring
>>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before
the event.
>>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a
>>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC
later if
>>> nothing goes wrong with the visa?
>>>
>> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it.
>>
> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.
>
> 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage,
what
>>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or
>>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to
share?
>>>
>> I don't understand, could you explain more.
>>
> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a
more
> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?
>
> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to
specify
> what kinds of community documentation will result from the
trip...not just
> social media, but that could be one part of it!)
>
>
>> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has
offered
>>> to contribute?
>>>
>> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux),
hotel,
>> foods and visa.
>>
> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?
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> Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 18:33:51 +0100
> From: Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>
> To: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org>
> Cc: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference
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> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a
carefully
>>>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an
>>>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
>>>> approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
>>>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level
contact
>>>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the
visa will
>>>> be approved?
>>>>
>>> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.
>>>
>> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A
single
>> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in
the French
>> government might be the best way.
>>
>> 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in
advance,
>>>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not
reassuring
>>>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before
the event.
>>>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a
>>>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC
later if
>>>> nothing goes wrong with the visa?
>>>>
>>> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss
about it.
>>>
>> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
>> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
>> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.
>>
> Sure i am going to do that.
>
>> 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late
stage, what
>>>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or
>>>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to
share?
>>>>
>>> I don't understand, could you explain more.
>>>
>> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in
a more
>> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
>> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?
>>
>> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to
specify
>> what kinds of community documentation will result from the
trip...not just
>> social media, but that could be one part of it!)
>>
> we will document on our wiki page/
>
>>
>>> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has
offered
>>>> to contribute?
>>>>
>>> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux),
hotel,
>>> foods and visa.
>>>
>> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?
>>
>> I will have to contact the team about that too.
> You will hear from me soon.
>
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> From: Chihurumnaya Ibiam <ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com>
> To: Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org>
> Cc: iaep <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, SLOBs <sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
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>>
>>
>> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A
single
>> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in
the French
>> government might be the best way.
>>
> We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the
French
> government, aside that we know there is no guarantee that it will be
> granted neither is there any that it'll not be granted.
>
>
>> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
>> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
>> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.
>>
> We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the
French
> government.
>
>
>> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in
a more
>> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
>> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?
>>
>> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to
specify
>> what kinds of community documentation will result from the
trip...not just
>> social media, but that could be one part of it!)
>>
> This was in an email i received from the Scratch2017bdx committee
>
> *HAL*
> If your proposal has an accompanying paper or poster that you wish
to add
> to the academic archives, our partner INRIA can publish it in a
> Scratch2017BDX section at HAL. HAL is an open archive where authors can
> deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields. For this,
please fill
> out the form at scratch2017bdx.org/en/hal
>
> If that helps.
>
>
>> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?
>>
> They want to share the responsibility with Sugar Labs, they already
have a
> budget for the event but every money is virtual at the moment, they are
> working it out. So they'd love to pay half of the bill that's an
estimated
> 1500euros($1681.12), but working the figures out the bill goes past
that.
>
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