My opinion is that Sugar Labs shouldn't approve trips not having to do with 
official business of Sugar Labs; the Software Freedom Conservancy; One Laptop 
per Child; an OLPC client organization; Google Inc. (only for Sugar Labs' 
participation in the Google Code-In and Google Summer of Code); the Fedora 
Project; Red Hat, Inc.; the Linux Foundation; Linus Torvalds; or any other 
third-party individual or company that provides software to Sugar Labs.

Speaking of that, would these trips have anything to do with such official 
business?

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> El sept 24, 2017, a las 23:27, Martin Dengler <[email protected]> 
> escribió:
> 
> How many votes would it take to change the tagline of IAEP to “It’s An 
> Education Project (not a travel agency!)”?
> 
> Martin
> 
> (Not directed at Caryl personally - this whole thread comes off as pretty far 
> from SL’s mission to this observer. It should be internal IMHO.)
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2017, at 23:39, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed and I would love to host Samson in LA for a couple of days between Google 
>> and Boston. Kayak is showing the one way ticket at $111 at the time he can 
>> fly (evening). We will get that ticket for him if the rest of his trip is 
>> approved.
>> Caryl
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Adam Holt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Lionel Laské <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> -1 for this motion.
>>>> 
>>>> Participation to the GSoC Summit is already a privilege. It's fair that 
>>>> Samson as a mentor could have opportunity to attend to it.
>>>> I don't see any advantage for SugarLabs on the Samson side trip, so there 
>>>> is no reason for SugarLabs to pay for it.
>>> 
>>> Lionel,
>>> 
>>> While I strongly sympathize (I work with Haitian teachers who don't find it 
>>> funny that Samson appears willing to let substantially more than $500 
>>> disappear, far more than a year's salary for my educator colleagues in 
>>> Haiti...)
>>> 
>>> Still let me still ask: what would you think if Samson approached this with 
>>> a spirit of compromise, spending $1277.68+190 instead of the earlier 
>>> desired 1920.82 (1730.82+190) or 2110.22 (1920.22+190) ?  In this fashion 
>>> his 2 side trips would not cost Sugar Labs much at all:
>>> 
>>> $1,277.68 @ Emirates.com for  https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL Lagos - San 
>>> Francisco Oct 12/13; Boston - Lagos Oct 21/22
>>> $190 Los Angeles - Boston Oct 15/16
>>> 
>>> Nobody appreciates a "planned emergency" like this, when Samson's side 
>>> trips could easily have been mentioned in public earlier this summer, 
>>> instead of forcing everyone to the brink like this with de facto 
>>> high-pressure sales tactics.
>>> 
>>> But let's try to make the best of this obvious disaster and put that behind 
>>> us.
>>> 
>>> If you agree, Samson might be wise to jump on this opportunity immediately 
>>> instead of arguing for days over a trip that could Very Easily Go Down The 
>>> Drain (as prices are now rising quickly, with Oct 12 only days away now).
>>> 
>>> In Context: the companies I've worked for across my career would * never * 
>>> allow the purchase of intercontinental flights only ~16 days prior to 
>>> travel like this, even if Samson's side trips had been mentioned 
>>> forthrightly a priori (instead of forcing Sugar Labs to the brink, and 
>>> costing us money with ever-rising flight costs...)
>>> _______________________________________________
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