Perhaps this (finding a new IRC web client) can be a GCI task: to research the best options.
-walter On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 1:27 AM, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > G'day Bernie, > > I agree, Mailman3 would be a useful upgrade. > > I'm sorry, I can't suggest any mobile friendly web IRC clients, but > I've heard from others they do exist, just a matter of selecting one. > > Cross-linking IRC and Slack via Matrix seems all the rage on the > conference circuit, but that seems mostly a way to avoid having to > change clients. ;-) > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 09:09:08PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > Thankyou James for the summary and thankyou Sam for the quick response. > > > > As for Slack: I think it's used only by Samuel to mentor some new > sysadmins. I have to admit I'm rarely on IRC these days due to lack of a > good Android client, but I'd also recommend against adding new public > communication channels for the project. > > > > Would someone volunteer to update chat.sugarlabs.org? Perhaps see if > there are web IRC clients that are more mobile friendly than qwebirc? > > > > And Mailman3 with Hyperkitty would also be a big help for non-technical > users (forum like interface for posting to lists). > > > > > > On September 29, 2017 6:36:19 PM EDT, Sam Parkinson <sam@sam.today> > wrote: > > >Thanks for replying James. Your pretty spot - that is a pretty good > > >summary of the thing. > > >I didn't get the email alerting about the 1-click upgrade. I'm > > >clicking to apply it now. > > >I've granted admin to quozl. If any sysadmin would like admin on the > > >service, please send your username and I can add you via the web > > >interface. If you admin, I think that will let you do 1 click > > >upgrades. > > >Sorry for dropping the ball on this one. > > >On Sat, 2017-09-30 at 06:46 +1000, James Cameron wrote: > > >> G'day Bernie, > > >> > > >> No, and no. > > >> > > >> Thanks for raising this. It is a risk to have a public service > > >> unmaintained, as it can lead to it being exploited. > > >> > > >> Discourse is integrated with Sugar through the Social Help feature > > >> [0], using the alt-shift-h shortcut or the frame icon. The feature > > >> was added [1, 2] in GSoC 2014 and merged in May 2015 for Sugar 0.106, > > >> with some good fixes since. > > >> > > >> Social Help is an underutilised feature. Rate of new posts is > > >> minimal, at about two per year, and I think I'm the only person > > >> responding [3]. > > >> > > >> Despite designed technical advantages [1] Social Help has not had the > > >> popularity or numerical success of Sugar Network, and with the > > >> board's > > >> decision [4] to remediate Sugar Network my guess is that the Social > > >> Help feature could be removed from Sugar. > > >> > > >> My guesses for why Social Help has not been used are; > > >> > > >> (a) the feature is undiscoverable, > > >> > > >> (b) deployments have set up their own forums, > > >> > > >> (c) independent users of Sugar 0.106 and later are minimal, > > >> > > >> (d) failed to gain critical mass. > > >> > > >> To answer your questions; > > >> > > >> 1. I'm not handling updates to Discourse; I've no access keys and > > >> don't know how to do it [5]. Sam Parkinson was handling updates at > > >> one stage. > > >> > > >> 2. I'm not using it for project communications, and I've asked those > > >> who try that to use mailing lists [6]. > > >> > > >> You mention Slack. I don't believe we have Slack. Slack isn't > > >> referenced in the Wiki, and hasn't been mentioned on mailing lists. > > >> If Slack is being used, it is a private group, and the knowledge > > >> hasn't been widely distributed yet. Please do that? > > >> > > >> We do have too many project communication options for the size of the > > >> project at the moment. I'd like to see some options close. > > >> > > >> +CC sugar-devel@ and iaep@ since I've raised several issues that may > > >> benefit from wider discussion. ;-) > > >> > > >> References: > > >> > > >> 0. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Social_Help > > >> 1. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2014/AnaBalica/Socia > > >> l_Help#Comparison_between_Discourse_and_Sugar_Network > > >> 2. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2014/Prasoon2211/Soc > > >> ial_Help > > >> 3. https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org/ > > >> 4. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions#2017-04-2 > > >> 1_2 > > >> 5. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Social_Help#Todo > > >> 6. https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org/t/sugar-collaboration-xsce-iiab- > > >> xmpp-jabber-ejabberd/226/5 > > >> > > >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 01:31:46PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > >> > Is anyone handling updates for discourse? > > >> > > > >> > Is it being used for project communication? I ask because we also > > >> > have > > >> > IRC, Slack and mailing lists. > > >> > > > >> > On 29/09/17 07:57, socialh...@sugarlabs.org wrote: > > >> > > Hooray, a new version of Discourse <http://www.discourse.org> is > > >> > > available! > > >> > > > > >> > > Your version: 1.6.8 > > >> > > New version: *1.8.8* > > >> > > > > >> > > * > > >> > > > > >> > > Upgrade using our easy *one-click browser upgrade [...] > > >> > > > > >> > > * > > >> > > > > >> > > See what's new in the GitHub changelog > > >> > > <https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/master> > > >> > > > > >> > > * > > >> > > > > >> > > Visit meta.discourse.org <https://meta.discourse.org> for > > >> > > news, > > >> > > discussion, and support for Discourse > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > Systems mailing list > > >> > > syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > >> > \X/ http://codewiz.org > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Systems mailing list > > >> > syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems > > > > -- > > ベルニー > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.netrek.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
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