Oh! Ok. Thanks for explaining, James! Would it be helpful if I added some words about this bug to the wiki article <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation> that got me started?
On 11/26/18 1:15 AM, James Cameron wrote: > Thanks for the report. > > You're hitting a known bug we are working on. > > Press F3 key to show the home view, or move the mouse to the corner, > wait for the Frame to appear, and select the home view that way. > > https://help.sugarlabs.org/en/home_view.html > > The bug was introduced by the Metacity window manager and is being > tracked in several places; > > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/769#issuecomment-441350118 > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/368 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1519042 > > You can take a screenshot with Alt-1, and it will be added to the > Journal, but it isn't necessary, I know what you've hit. > > If you know any developers interested in helping to fix this, send > them to me! > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 01:04:25AM -0500, Kevin wrote: >> Hi all, and thanks for making and sharing sugar. It looks like wonderful >> software. >> >> I'd like to introduce my 8yo kid to sugar, so I installed vanilla F29 on an >> old >> MacBook Pro, updated all installed software via yum (no apparent problems >> with >> that much), and then I followed the instructions I found [1]here: >> >> ============== >> >> Using Sugar as a Desktop Environment >> >> Install Fedora. Then, in a Terminal, type: >> >> sudo dnf groupinstall sugar-desktop >> >> Then restart your computer. At the Sign in select the Sugar desktop. >> >> ============== >> >> I did that, and after having done so, I don't have the same experience that I >> see when I go to [2]https://try.sugarizer.org. >> >> When I visit [3]https://try.sugarizer.org I see two options to click: "New >> user" and "Login", so I chose the former. Then I see "Choose name" and I >> type a >> trial name in to the text field and click "Next". Then I see "Choose at >> least 4 >> images:" and I click on "a", "b", "c", and "d" and then click "Next". And >> now I >> see "Click to change color:", and here is where there is one page that has >> some >> common features with my F29/Sugar desktop environment. So I click until I >> like >> a color combination for my trial XO character and then click "Done." Then I >> see >> a spinny icon and shortly afterwards I see my XO character at the center of a >> spiral of Activity icons that I suspect is very familiar to everyone here >> (what >> I think of as the Sugar desktop). >> >> But this differs in some important ways from what I see in my F29/Sugar >> desktop >> environment. >> >> When I enter my kid's username and password at the gnome display manager in >> F29 >> and select the Sugar desktop, I do see the "Click to change color:" screen. >> After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose gender. >> After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose a grade. >> After I click "Done" on this screen, I don't see my XO character at the >> center >> of a spiral of Activity icons like I do at [4]https://try.sugarizer.org. I >> don't see anything like it at all. I can't take a screenshot of it because >> the >> screen seems to have no functionality for that at all. In the middle of a >> white >> screen I see a gray icon of a three-ring binder and the phrase: "Your Journal >> is empty". In the black top bar or "title bar", I see a small gray magnifying >> glass search icon in a white text box that reads "Search in Journal" on the >> far >> left, and then proceeding from left to right, I see a white star, then a >> white >> box icon with its four top flaps open, then two drop-down menus that read >> "Anything" (entitled "Select filter") and "Anytime" (also entitled "Select >> filter" with date options like "Today" and "Since yesterday"), respectively, >> then lastly I see an icon of a pencil writing on a piece of paper with upward >> and downward pointing triangles (another drop-down menu entitled "Sort >> view"). >> >> I get the impression that in my F29/Sugar desktop described above, I'm >> looking >> at the Journal Activity, not the spiral collection of Activity icons that I >> see >> at [5]https://try.sugarizer.org. >> >> In [6]https://try.sugarizer.org, I see the same three-ring binder icon just >> below the XO character, and when I click on it at >> [7]https://try.sugarizer.org, >> I'm taken to a screen that is similar to my desktop in my F29/Sugar desktop >> ("Search in journal", white star, "Anything" and "Anytime" drop-down menus, a >> question mark inside a circle, and finally a dot inside a circle on the far >> right; and the same three-ring binder icon in the center of the screen above >> the words "Your journal is empty"). But I can exit this screen and return to >> the spiral of Activity icons by clicking the dot-in-circle icon. There is no >> way I can find to exit the Journal activity in my F29/Sugar desktop. >> >> When I burned the SoaS iso to a DVD-R and booted into that on this old >> MacBook >> Pro, I had the exact same experience as I described above when logging into >> this vanilla F29 OS and selecting the Sugar desktop within the gnome display >> manager. >> >> So my question is, how do I make my F29/Sugar desktop (apparently just the >> Journal activity) look something like what I see at [8]https:// >> try.sugarizer.org (which I think is what I'm supposed to be seeing: the Sugar >> desktop)? >> >> As it is now, the only thing I can really do in my F29/Sugar desktop is to >> kill >> -9 the only running process that I see owned by my kid's account when I issue >> the "[alpha@localhost ~]$ w" command (/usr/libexec/gdm-x-session --run-script >> sugar). I do this while logged into F29 as another user in either a virtual >> console or in the gnome desktop environment running a terminal window. Then I >> can login as my kid again and go through the same stuck-in-journal-activity >> loop. How do I break out of this loop? >> >> I asked about this yesterday in IRC as Nick dr02020, and walterbender >> suggested >> that I try the F29 vanilla installation that I have now done. Thanks for the >> suggestion, Walter, but I have the same problems in F29 too. >> >> Thanks for any suggestions on this dilemma. I'm excited to see how my kid >> does >> in sugar and hope I can do so in our own computer rather than strictly at [9] >> https://try.sugarizer.org. >> >> Best, >> >> Kevin >> >> References: >> >> [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/fedora.md >> [2] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [3] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [4] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [5] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [6] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [7] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [8] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> [9] https://try.sugarizer.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >
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