Sssst Fer,.... itu undangannya udah pake bahasa Inggris lho....mustinya
secara implisit juga bisa diartikan bahwa acaranya defaultnya bahasa
inggrislah...

(its just a matter of balancing between marketing and bargaining
strategy....kalau anda sebutkan bahwa Presentation and Discussion will be
delivered in English, maka seolah-olah IAGI nich tidak terbiasa komunikasi
bahasa Inggris sehingga perlu mengumumkan secara khusus bahwa acara ini akan
memakai  Bahasa Inggris.....dst dst,... ihhh, masak kamu gak tau
strategi-strategi marketing dasar kayak gini Fer,.... ?? hehehehe....: )

btw, the announcement has been made
please tell ur expatriate colleague that they will be fully entertained in
this event as well, dont worry...


adb

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI Half-Day
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> Justru itu Mas Andang..
>
> Maksud saya langsung saja di undangannya dikatakan pengantarnya  bahasa
> inggris dan undang sebanyak - banyaknya expat...
> ( biar expat yang mau dateng enggak kuatir gara - gara takut presentasinya
> pake bahasa campuran / malah bahasa indonesia..) dan teman - teman di kps
> jakarta bisa mempromosikan juga ke expat di kantornya....
>
> kalau enggak ada expat yang datang ya otomatis kan pake bahasa sendiri...
>
> Regards
>
> Kartiko-Samodro
> Telp : 3852
>
>
>
>
>
> "Andang Bachtiar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 10/06/2005 03:52 PM
> Please respond to iagi-net
>
>
>         To:     <[email protected]>
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l]
IAGI/HAGI Half-Day
> Panel-Discussion
>
>
> Coba perhatikan baik2 statemen-nya pak:
>
> "Kita akan menggunakan bi-lingual,.....dst.... (kalau memang ada peserta
> expatriatenya)"
>
> Itu lebih maju daripada menggunakan satu bahasa saja, pak....
> (Kalau tidak ada expatriate yang datang, tentunya akan sangat tidak
> effisien
> kalau memakasakan bahasa Inggris, apalagi bilingual).
>
>
> Salam,....
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI
> Half-Day
> Panel-Discussion
>
>
> > Kok malah mundur lagi....?
> > katanya biar pendapat  dan pandangan - pandangan ahli kita bisa didengar
> > orang asing sehingga tidak ada salah paham dengan para investor
> > perminyakan / KPS
> > lain , dan menunjukkan bahwa iklim investasi dan regulasi di Indonesia
> > masih kondusif.
> >
> > Menurut saya , kalau  panelisnya tidak keberatan mendingan  pake bahasa
> > Inggris dan undang orang expat sebanyak - banyaknya....sehingga para
> > investor asing itu bisa jelas duduk perkara dan argumen - argumen ahli
> > kita...( dan investor asing itu kan enggak cuma amerika, bisa perancis,
> > cina dsb yang pakai bahasa inggris juga sebagai bahasa kedua lho..)
> >
> > Nah resumenya nanti baru bilingual bahasa Inggris dan Indonesia
> >
> > cuma saran
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Kartiko-Samodro
> > Telp : 3852
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andang Bachtiar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 10/06/2005 03:33 PM
> > Please respond to iagi-net
> >
> >
> >         To:     <[email protected]>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l]
> IAGI/HAGI Half-Day
> > Panel-Discussion
> >
> >
> > Kita akan menggunakan bi-lingual, atau -- paling tidak--, moderatornya
> > akan
> > mencoba meresumekan pembicaraan panelis dalam 2 bahasa (kalau memang ada
> > peserta expatriate-nya)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > adb
> > :
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nyoman Suta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI
> > Half-Day
> > Panel-Discussion
> >
> >
> > > Alasannya bagus.
> > >
> > > Meremehkan para panelis? itu bukan maksud saya.
> > > Maksud saya, karena topiknya komprehensive (bukan melulu keteknikan):
> > > mungkin ada 'bahasa' ekonomi, politik, peraturan/hukum, dll, bisa jadi
> > saya
> > > akan ter-tatih2 mengertikannya... hanya khawatir keseleo menangkap
> > > substansinya.
> > > Tapi melihat alasan bagus itu tadi, boleh-boleh saja.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: oki musakti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June
> > 09,
> > > 2005 4:36 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI
> > Half-Day
> > > Panel-Discussion
> > >
> > > Tidak sepakat......
> > > Lha wong PIT IAGI aja mau kita 'Inggriskan' koq......
> > >
> > > Takut diskusinya nggak lincah kalau pakai bahasa Inggris...? wah bisa
> > > dianggap meremehkan pak Kusuma, pak Kurtubi dan boss Andang yang
> lulusan
> > > Colorado, Pak Rizal yang doktornya dari AS (?), Pak Kwik yang kalau
> > > nggak salah lulusan Jerman dan kang ROvicky yang sudah bertahun2
> malang
> > > melintang di dunia internasional.
> > >
> > > Di kalangan expats, ada kesan bahwa EMOI adalah 'korban' dari affair
> > > Cepu ini. Mungkin kalau mereka hadir dalam diskusi ini, sudut
> pandangnya
> > > bakalan bisa sedikit berubah. Kalau diskusinya pakai Bahasa, ya nggak
> > > ketemu.......
> > >
> > > Lam-salam
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > sepakat. jadi bule bisa baca terjemahan hasilnya, kemungkinan besar
> dari
> > > hasil kerja para wartawan. yg penting, dari awal masalah bahasa ini
> juga
> > > perlu dikemukakan, agar tidak kecewa bagi yg belum fasih berbahasa
> > > indonesia.
> > >
> > > salam,
> > > syaiful
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Nyoman Suta"
> > >
> > > ina.co.id> cc:
> > > Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI
> > > 06/09/2005 09:13 AM Half-Day Panel-Discussion
> > > Please respond to
> > > iagi-net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rasanya, hanya untuk kali ini, bule yang datang perlu ngerti b
> Indonesia
> > > supaya diskusinya lebih lincah tanpa barrier (?), apalagi kalau yang
> > > datang
> > > hanya 1-2 orang. Kalau pesertanya 50-50 sih boleh2 saja. Hanya saja
> > > rangkumannya barangkali bi-lingual, seperti kalau bikin MoM..
> > > Dan yang menarik untuk didengarkan adalah ARGUMENT-ARGUMENT: kenapa
> > > 'pemerintah' memilih "siapa", atau sebaliknya.
> > >
> > > Salam,
> > > Nyoman
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:39 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [iagi-net-l] apa bahasanya: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI/HAGI
> Half-Day
> > > Panel-Discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > ada pertanyaan, apakah bahasa komunikasi acara akan diselenggarakan
> dlm
> > > bahasa inggris atau bahasa indonesia? info/undangan dlm bahasa
> inggris,
> > > tetapi ada bule yg ragu2 kalo acara nanti ternyata dlm bahasa
> indonesia.
> > > mohon penjelasannya.
> > >
> > > salam,
> > > syaiful
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sekretariat
> > >
> > > Pengurus To: "IAGI-NET"
> > > , ,
> > > Pusat" ,
> > > ,
> > > ,
> > > ,
> > > et.id> , "'IMA'"
> > > , "Titi Tabusalla"
> > > , "Titi
> > > Tabusalla"
> > >
> > > 06/08/2005 cc: "'geovani christopher'"
> > > ,
> > > 03:28 PM ,
> > > ,
> > > Please respond ,
> > > "Rovicky Dwi Putrohari"
> > > to iagi-net ,
> > >
> > > Subject: [iagi-net-l]
> > > IAGI/HAGI
> > > Half-Day Panel-Discussion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Professionals
> > > IAGI/HAGI will conduct A Half-Day Panel-Discussion. The discussion
> will
> > > give you more information about Cepu Block, Central Java. Please
> > > registered now, it's limited seat.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > benz
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IAGI-HAGI half-day panel-discussion
> > >
> > > "CEPU GIANT OIL FIELD: REVEALING THE (GEOLOGICAL, TECHNICAL, BUSINESS,
> > > AND POLITICAL) MYSTERY"
> > >
> > > Date
> > > Wednesday, 15 June 2005
> > >
> > > Time
> > > 08:30 - 12:00 (morning refreshment and lunch provided)
> > >
> > > Venue
> > > Sasono Mulyo I, Lobby Level, Le Meridien Hotel, Jl. Jend. Sudirman
> Kav.
> > > 18-20 Jakarta 10220
> > >
> > > Participacion Fee
> > > IAGI/HAGI Member - Rp.175.000
> > > IAGI/HAGI Non Member - Rp. 200.00
> > > Student (S1) - Rp. 100.000
> > >
> > > Panelist
> > > RP Koesoemadinata
> > > Emeritus Professor of Geology at ITB who will talk about the geology
> and
> > > technical aspect of Cepu giant oil field
> > >
> > > Kwik Kian Gie (in confirmation)
> > > Ex Coordinating Minister of Economy and ex Head of Bappenas who will
> > > talk about the business and political aspects of Cepu giant oil field
> > >
> > > Rizal Mallarangeng (in confirmation)
> > > The member of Indonesian Government Negotiation Team who will talk
> about
> > > the government negotiation and political aspects of Cepu giant oil
> field
> > >
> > > Kurtubi
> > > Energy economy expert who will talk about oil/gas macro-economy and
> > > pertamina aspects of Cepu giant oil field
> > >
> > > Rovicky Dwi Putrohari
> > > Professional geoscientist / consultant who will talk about the
> > > Indonesian explorationist capabilities to handle such giant oil field
> > > like Cepu and comparison with regional professional resources.
> > >
> > > Moderator
> > > Andang Bachtiar
> > > President of IAGI
> > >
> > > Registration
> > > Reservations and cancellations will be accepted until 01:00 pm on
> > > Tuesday, June 14, 2005. Please call Benz/Lina/Ady at Phone / Fax :
> > > (021) 83702848, 83702577 or E-mail at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No
> > > Reservations and cancellations Will be accepted after this time.
> > >
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