masukan yg bagus, pak awang. bisa kita pertimbangkan utk dilakukan.
terimakasih. salam. syaiful

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Awang Satyana<awangsaty...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pak Benz,
>
> Terima kasih atas penjelasannya yang rinci dan tuntas. Terima kasih juga 
> kepada Pak Prasiddha yang telah menginfomasikan kursus2 lain dalam rangkaian 
> PIT ini, rupanya ada kursus/FT lain yang dikelola MGEI dalam acara ini. 
> Memang kalau segmen pasarnya kecil, kita tak bisa mengharapkan sesuatu yang 
> besar -apalagi kalau segmen yang kecil itu menjadi target pasar banyak 
> organisasi profesi.
>
> Mungkin perlu dipikirkan untuk menyebarkan angket satu lembar saja tentang 
> apa tema kursus dan pilihan FT yang disukai ke mana dan tentang apa sebagai 
> bagian dari seminar kit PIT IAGI di Semarang besok. Untuk memudahkan 
> pengisian hanya dengan mencontreng, bisa didaftarkan kursus2/FT2 atau 
> lain-lain sesuai keinginan pribadi. Lalu sediakan kotak khusus buat menampung 
> angket itu.  Kemudian PP-IAGI nanti mengevaluasinya. Ini untuk mengetahui 
> kecenderungan pasar. Siapa tahu ini bisa menjadi jalan agar kursus/FT yang 
> diselenggarakan bisa sesuai dengan keinginan pasar. Kan sayang bila Panitia 
> telah berusaha menyusun misalnya 4 kursus 4 FT, tetapi yang jalan hanya 1 
> kursus dan 1 FT akibat kekurangan peserta.
>
> salam,
> Awang
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/3/09, benyamin sembiring <benyaminsembir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: benyamin sembiring <benyaminsembir...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] IAGI Pre and Post Convention Filedtrip&Course
>> To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
>> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 5:15 PM
>> Salam,
>>
>> Pak Awang yang sangat perhatian,
>> Panitia PIT IAGI dalam menyelenggarakan Kursus maupun
>> Fieldtrip biasanya
>> bekerja sama dengan universitas, konsultan penyelenggara
>> fieldtrip dan
>> berbagai instansi lainnya. Beberapa tahun ini saya terlibat
>> panitia baik
>> secara langsung maupun tidak langsung. Fieldtrip yang saya
>> sampaikan ke
>> milis merupakan kerja sama Panitia IAGI dengan Konsultan
>> penyelenggara.
>> Karena saya melihat agak terlabat penginformasian acara ini
>> sehingga saya
>> mendahului penyampaian FT dan Kursus tersebut, walaupun
>> sebenarnya Panitia
>> IAGI bekerja sama juga dengan MGEI untuk menyelenggarakan
>> FT dan
>> kursus/seminar lainnya, dan saya lihat juga MGEI melakukan
>> publikasi
>> tersendiri di lingkungan nya. Hal ini untuk penginformasian
>> yg lebih cepat.
>> Karena acapkali acara Fieldtrip IAGI kurang mendapatkan
>> peserta (kurang
>> peminat) karena informasi yg terlambat.
>>
>> Untuk tema lain yg lebih menarik di Jatim dan Jateng
>> mungkin saja ada, tapi
>> mungkin belum ada lembaga atau univ yang bisa bekerjasama
>> pada tahun ini.
>>
>> Penurunan Animo, saya agak ragu menjawabnya, karena
>> berdasarkan pengamatan
>> saya di beberapa tahun terakhir ini memang kegiatan ini
>> sedikit peminatnya.
>> Mungkin memang "pasar" nya cuma kecil. jadi gak bisa
>> dipaksa.
>> Apa sebab utama nya saya juga kurang paham. Kalo masalah
>> jumlah yg bapak
>> sampaikan, kurang pas. Harusnya apakah sejumlah FT yang
>> disajikan itu "laku"
>> apa tidak. Bisa aja kita buat jumlahnya banyak tapi tidak
>> ada satupun yang
>> diminati. Sewaktu PIT di Bali, banyak FT tapi gak diminati.
>> Kalo gak salah
>> waktu itu hanya ada satu yg diminati dgn jumlah minim
>> sekali, FT ke Newmont,
>> yg lain....?
>>
>> Pernah beberapa tema kita pasarkan di PIT IAGI tapi tidak
>> "laku" namun di
>> acara yang sejenis di organisasi lain "laku". Katanya sih
>> ada kecenderungan
>> kalau IAGI yg mengadakan kurang "bonafide". Padahal baik
>> IAGI maupun
>> Organisasi lain itu, ya itu-itu juga kan orangnya yg
>> menyelengarakan.
>> Juga ada kecenderungan untuk Fieldtrip/Kursus ke Luar
>> Negeri. karena mungkin
>> itu kelihatan lebih bergengsi, lebih menarik jalan-jalan
>> nya ke negara lain
>> dsb.
>>
>> Semoga bermanfaat
>>
>> Salam
>> benz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/3 Awang Satyana <awangsaty...@yahoo.com>
>>
>> > Pak Benyamin,
>> >
>> > Hanya satu fieldtrip dan satu kursus dalam PIT IAGI
>> ini. Apakah tidak ada
>> > tema lain yang menarik untuk dijadikan kursus ? Apakah
>> area Jawa Tengah dan
>> > sekitarnya tidak menarik untuk dijadikan fieldtrip ?
>> >
>> > Saya mengamati terjadi penurunan jumlah kursus dan
>> fieldtrip dalam
>> > pelaksanaan PIT IAGI beberapa tahun terakhir ini.
>> Biasanya 3-4 kursus dan
>> > 3-4 fieldtrip dalam sekali PIT bisa diorganisasi dan
>> dilaksanakan. Apakah
>> > ada penurunan animo komunitas geologi terhadap kursus
>> dan fieldtrip ?
>> >
>> > Perlu kita amati juga animo komunitas geologi terhadap
>> PIT, bila semakin
>> > menurun jumlah pesertanya, harus ada yang kita
>> benahi.
>> >
>> > salam,
>> > Awang
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 9/3/09, benyamin sembiring <benyaminsembir...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: benyamin sembiring <benyaminsembir...@gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: [iagi-net-l] IAGI Pre and Post
>> Convention Filedtrip&Course
>> > > To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
>> > > Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 9:12 AM
>> > >  Dear Geoscientists,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The Indonesian Association of Geologists (IAGI)
>> will
>> > > conduct its Annual
>> > > Convention and Exhibiton at the Gumaya Hotel,
>> Semarang,
>> > > Central Java on
>> > > October 13-14, 2009.
>> > >
>> > > A fieldtrip and a Geology course before and after
>> the
>> > > Convention will be
>> > > offered to Convention participants:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *1. The field trip will be on DEEP MARINE SAND OF
>> KUTAI
>> > > BASIN* (Pre
>> > > Convention: October 8th-12th, 2009)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *2. The Geology Course will be on CORE
>> DESCRIPTION AND
>> > > ANALYSIS *(Post
>> > > Convention: October 14 (evening) – 17, 2009)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please do not forget to jot down this Fieldtrip
>> and Geology
>> > > Course on your
>> > > agenda.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *For more information, please contact:*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *The 38th IAGI Annual Convention and Exhibition
>> Committee*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Phone : 021 - 837 92688
>> > > Fax : 021 - 837 92687
>> > > Email : endra.sulis...@gda.co.id
>> > > / muhammad.roza...@gda.co.id
>> > > /
>> > > benyamin.sembir...@gda.co.id
>> > >
>> > > Contact Persons : M. Rozalli, Endra Sulistya,
>> Benyamin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for your kind attention
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > >
>> > > The Convention Committee
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *The 38th IAGI Annual Convention and Exhibition
>> **
>> > > Pre-Convention Field Trip*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *The Deep Marine Sand of Kutai Basin*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Fieldtrip Overview*
>> > > Although the Mahakam Delta is famous for its
>> Deltaic
>> > > Complex, actually it
>> > > also has deep marine sand deposits that recently
>> have
>> > > proven to be producing
>> > > in the Makassar Strait deep-water Blocks.
>> Outcrops of deep
>> > > marine turbidite
>> > > sand systems within the age of N2 - N8 will be
>> visited to
>> > > give the
>> > > participants an overview of the deep marine
>> > > “turbiditic” sands of Paleo
>> > > Mahakam Delta in contrast to the shallow marine
>> turbidites
>> > > in the prodelta
>> > > and shelf areas. Examples of bathyal up to
>> pro-delta
>> > > turbidite systems will
>> > > be discussed with published turbidite-systems
>> models as
>> > > references.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The field trip will cover the Balikpapan Bay,
>> Sepaku
>> > > District, Tenggarong,
>> > > Loa Duri, Samarinda, and Samboja. A total of 11
>> (eleven)
>> > > outcrops will be
>> > > visited in 3 days, with an average of 4 outcrops
>> per day.
>> > > All of the
>> > > outcrops are turbidite sandstones, comprising of
>> outer-fan,
>> > > middle-fan and
>> > > suprafan facies as well as shelf and prodelta
>> turbidites
>> > > traditionally known
>> > > to occur in the Miocene Pulau Balang Formation.
>> Comparison
>> > > between deep
>> > > marine & shallow marine turbidites of Kutai
>> Basin will
>> > > also be highlighted.
>> > > Although it will not be visited, the equivalent
>> proximal
>> > > lowstand deposits
>> > > will also be discussed (infact, their outcrop
>> ridges can be
>> > > seen from one of
>> > > the field-trip turbidite stops).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Reservoir characters such as lateral extent vs
>> thickness,
>> > > porosity,
>> > > permeability, heterogeneity, petrography, log
>> characters,
>> > > fossil
>> > > assemblages, sedimentary structures and even
>> tectonic
>> > > feature association
>> > > will be discussed using field sample data at
>> outcrop
>> > > localities.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > To ease off stress after daylight deal with the
>> complexity
>> > > of deep marine
>> > > sands of Paleo Mahakam Delta outcrops, several
>> tourism
>> > > spots will be
>> > > visited. On top of that, typical rock hounds
>> dinner will
>> > > also be served.
>> > > This will include a visit to the “Kutai”
>> Museum &
>> > > "karaoke dinner" in
>> > > Tenggarong and dine out at the world class
>> chili-crab
>> > > corner in Samarinda.
>> > > A summary session will be conducted before
>> leaving
>> > > Samarinda for Balikpapan
>> > > to catch the plane to Jakarta.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Date*
>> > > October 8th-12th, 2009
>> > > (5 days / 4 nights)
>> > > start on Thursday and finish on Monday
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Venue*
>> > > Samarinda & Balikpapan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Instructor*
>> > > Dr. Ir. Andang Bachtiar, MSc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Cost**
>> > > *USD  2000,-/person
>> > > Registration deadline by October 3, 2009
>> > >
>> > > *Who Should Attend*
>> > > exploration geologist, development / production
>> geologist,
>> > > geophysicist,
>> > > reservoir engineer, log analyst, petrophysicist,
>> coal
>> > > geologist & all
>> > > geoscientist.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Fieldtrip Fasilities*
>> > > Air ticket, hotel, meals (breakfast, lunch,
>> dinner),
>> > > logistic (snack,
>> > > softdrink, fruit), guidebook, shirt, hat, back
>> pack,
>> > > stationary and
>> > > transportation during trip.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Itinerary “Deep Marine Sand of Kutai
>> Basin”*
>> > >
>> > > *Day – 1 :*
>> > > Thursday, October 8, 2009
>> > >
>> > > Jakarta-Balikpapan  by GA Flight
>> > > Check-in at Le Grandeur Hotel-Balikpapan
>> > > Classroom on Regional Geology of Kutai Basin
>> > > *Day – 2 :*
>> > > Friday, October 9, 2009
>> > >
>> > > Breakfast at Le Grandeur Restaurant
>> > > Boat trip:
>> > > Stop 1  Pulau Balang Kecil
>> > > Stop 2  Pulau Balang Besar
>> > > Lunch (lunch box)
>> > > Stop 3  BP TL 39
>> > > Back to BPN (Le-Grandeur Hotel)
>> > >  “Sea-food Segiri Dinner”
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > *Day – 3 :*
>> > > Saturday, October 10, 2009
>> > >
>> > > Breakfast in Le-Grandeur Restaurant
>> > > Boat trip to Kenangan Camp (ITCI)
>> > > Drive with 4 WD car to Kenangan Outcrop
>> > > Stop 1 Sepaku Road KM 60  Outcrop
>> > > Stop 2 Sepaku Road Km 54 Outcrop
>> > > Stop 3 Sepaku Road Km 53
>> > > LUNCH
>> > > Stop 4 GITAN ITCI Road 3000
>> > > Back to BPN (Le-Grandeur Hotel)
>> > >
>> > > *Day – 4:*
>> > > Sunday, October 11, 2009
>> > >
>> > > Around Balikpapan
>> > > Breakfast in Le-Grandeur Restaurant
>> > > Check-out from Le-Grandeur hotel
>> > > BPN – Tenggarong - SMD trip:
>> > > Stop 1 Pro Delta Turbidite Outcrop – Loa Buah
>> > > Stop 2 Bypass Tenggarong Outrop
>> > > Stop 3 Visit “Kutai” Museum - Tenggarong
>> > > LUNCH in Pandan Wangi Tenggarong
>> > > Stop 4 Bathyal Turbidite Bakungan Outcrop
>> > > Check-in Bumi Senyiur hotel - Samarinda
>> > > “Chili Crab Dinner”
>> > > Overnight at Bumi Senyiur Hotel-Samarinda
>> > >
>> > > *Day – 5: **
>> > > *Monday, October 12, 2009
>> > >
>> > > Check-out Bumi Senyiur
>> > > BPN-JKT
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *The 38th IAGI Annual Convention and Exhibition
>> **
>> > > Post-Convention Course*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *CORE DESCRIPTION AND ANALISYS COURSE*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Why is the course very important*
>> > >
>> > > When you have cores of your reservoirs, it will
>> be the
>> > > greatest geological
>> > > phenomena you can get.
>> > > However, even your best interpretation which is
>> based on
>> > > geological
>> > > information collected by the most sophisticated
>> wireline
>> > > tools can not match
>> > > your best interpretation based on cores if you
>> have them.
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > *Wireline response will tell you much, but the
>> core will
>> > > tell you more.*
>> > > Your best core interpretation will come from the
>> best
>> > > description.
>> > > This course will improve your skill that *you can
>> not get
>> > > from any textbook
>> > > and any course*.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Date*
>> > >
>> > > October 14 (evening) – 17, 2009
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Venue*
>> > >
>> > > Gumaya Hotel, Semarang
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Instructor*
>> > > Dr. Ir. Andang Bachtiar, MSc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Cost**
>> > > *Rp 8.500.000,-/person
>> > > Registration deadline by October 5, 2009
>> > >
>> > > *Who Should Attend*
>> > > exploration geologist, development / production
>> geologist,
>> > > geophysicist,
>> > > reservoir engineers, log analyst, petrophysicist,
>> coal
>> > > geologist & all
>> > > geoscientist.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *The Course participants will be provided with
>> > >   **
>> > > *a guide book, stationary, shirt, back pack and
>> free
>> > > lunch.
>> > > Please note that the Convention Committee will
>> neither be
>> > > responsible for
>> > > accommodation-breakfasts-dinners during Course
>> nor
>> > > transportation from
>> > > JKT-Gumaya Hotel/Semarang-JKT.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *For more information kindly contact***
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > *The 38th IAGI  Annual Convention and
>> Exhibition
>> > > Committee***
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > *Phone : 021 - 837 92688
>> > > Fax : 021 - 837 92687
>> > > Email : muhammad.roza...@gda.co.id<
>> > http://id.mc765.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=muhammad.roza...@gda.co.id>/
>> > > benyamin.sembir...@gda.co.id<
>> > http://id.mc765.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=benyamin.sembir...@gda.co.id
>> > >/
>> > > endra.sulis...@gda.co.id<
>> > http://id.mc765.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=endra.sulis...@gda.co.id>
>> > > Contact Person : M. Rozalli, Endra Sulistya,
>> Benyamin *
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > PP-IAGI 2008-2011:
>> > ketua umum: LAMBOK HUTASOIT, lam...@gc.itb.ac.id
>> > sekjen: MOHAMMAD SYAIFUL, mohammadsyai...@gmail.com
>> > * 2 sekretariat (Jkt & Bdg), 5 departemen, banyak
>> biro...
>> >
>> >
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>> > ayo meriahkan PIT ke-38 IAGI!!!
>> > yg akan dilaksanakan di Hotel Gumaya, Semarang
>> > 13-14 Oktober 2009
>> >
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