Hi Brandon, Other than the first the first quote "The biggest problem with iBATIS is its too simple" every thing else is mine. You are welcome to put that on the wiki.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ibatis-user-java@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The biggest problem with iBATIS .............. Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:47:35 -0700 > > haha!.. that's great. I sense a new wiki page on the ibatis site... > "The Ligther Side". Who wrote that? I wonder if they would mind if we > put that on our wiki? > > Brandon > > > On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:30:31 -0500, Antony Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I came across this on one of the other forums. > > > > "The biggest problem with iBATIS is its too simple" > > > > So here is a couple of suggestions to the iBATIS team to make the > > framework as complicated as the much hyped ORM tools in the > > market. > > > > 1) iBATIS needs a new query language. SQL!, its sooo 20th > > century, everyone knows it, and whats with this bias towards > > english. We live in a global village, I suggest that the new > > query language include terms from all continents. > > 2) It needs some kind of session management. All the other ORM > > frameworks have it, why not iBATIS. > > > > Since its seems these days the goal of a corporate consultant is > > to make sure the application costs as much as possible and takes > > as much time as possible, here is a synopsis of the conversation > > a consultant will have with the project manager using the new > > iBATIS(or your favorite ORM framework). > > > > 1) As you know the framework uses a new query language, your > > developers need to be trained on it. My company X provides a 3 > > day training course. Its just $xxxx.xx per person. Don't forget > > to include the DBAs for training. cha-ching! > > 2) Your developers seem to be ignorant of ORM design patterns > > like 'Open session in view', > > 'session-per-request-with-multiple-transactions' .... etc . My > > company X provides a 1 day training course for ORM patterns. It > > just xxxx.xx per person. cha-ching! > > 3) What!, your the DBAs want to denormalize the tables. This is a > > problem, but we can solve it. The will cause the queries to get > > complicated (Actually the queries start looking more like regular > > expressions than queries) and it will take X weeks more and cost > > Y dollars more to complete the project. cha-ching! > > > > 4) Those SOB users. They want to query data with something other > > than the primary key!. We can take care of their requirements, > > but now, we will have to write a whole bunch of dynamic queries > > to take care of all the different query combinations. This will > > delay the project by another X weeks and cost X dollars more. > > cha-ching > > > > 5) And when the totally confused junior programmer (confused by > > session management and the query language) writes a query which > > reads the whole graph of data from the database bringing the > > application to a crawl: > > Mr project manager, my company X has a caching framework, its > > only $xxxxx.xx/per CPU. Plug that in and all your problems will > > be solved. > > cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. > > > > Imagine the name recognition new iBATIS will get. A whole bunch > > of confused developers will be asking questions on this forum, > > and then on the Spring forum, and then the struts forum and > > finally if all else fails, ask them on Matt Raible's blog. Thats > > publicity money can't buy. > > > > So my question to Clinton and gang is, are you going to > > incorporate these changes or follow on the same old beaten path > > of adding new features and making the framework simpler to use? > > > > Antony Joseph > > http://www.logicden.com > > https://workeffort.dev.java.net > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple > > dating sites at once. > > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > > > Antony Joseph http://www.logicden.com https://workeffort.dev.java.net -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com
