Let me see if I can help with some of this. I do understand some of the challenges from the System Programming point of view.
CA is moving to the Management Data Base (MDB) solution for many of the Infrastructure types of Products. This allows the usual types of Data to be shared across many of the solutions already in use. Datacom was chosen due to it performance characteristics. It does extremely well with the products that already use it. This Datacom requirement is meant to be a Black Box that is installed with associated products. Other than the normal Data Backup requirements, you should NOT have to be a DBA to run this. You still need to be aware of a Database product, just like you need to be aware that Websphere/MQ is DB2 under the covers, and OAM requires a (separate) DB2 subsystem to run. At one of our very large customers with large Sysplexes, a migration to CA11 R11 with Datacom went extremely smooth (without incident). The resulting performance is extremely fast. In fact they are able to do the work that CA11 previously did without Datacom, in less than half the time. There are some issues I read in all of these threads that I have passed on to the related Product Managers and Support. That is: the ease of installation (or the lack thereof), and Recoverability/Failover Opertional Procedures. I would expect a lot of enhancements to both of these as this new process matures. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 SYSN 7:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CA-11 3.0 + CA-DATACOM + Sysplex On Tue, 17 May 2005 10:31:51 -0400, Robert Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >well, that's one way to get rid of Datacom, although a little extreme. >Have a product laying around that no one uses? No problem, in the next >release, tie it to a product that a fair amount of people use. . >I've already volunteered to support the replacement product for CA11. >Hopefully we get that in here soon ! > We already have Datacom in two environments at current release levels. But when we have a CA-11/Datacom problem, I expect we'll call CA just like we do for Dispatch/IDMS problems. The Dispatch support has always been very good in this respect, but I almost never make a move when there are IDMS issues without consulting with them first. I hope this works as well with Datacom. We used to run another CA product that used a mini Datacom - a report balancing package called APCDDS (IIRC). I don't recall any "Datacom" issues while running that package. As far as replacement products... Practically every shops I've ever been at used CA-11. Do some of these other products support 24 x 7 operations with their packages, or do jobs/inits have to be stopped to perform regular maintenance (like CA-11 prior to V3.0)? Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programming expert at http://Search390.com/ateExperts/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
