I already confessed to being overly finicky on the real-storage issue. Besides sack cloth and ashes, I might be due for some hard core self flagellation.
On the other hand, a few parting observations: - Whatever comes installed in a CEC, we're talking about 37 MB per LPAR. We have some where that might represent 10% of the LPAR allocation. - There is no excuse for making people languish indefinitely for something anywhere near this simple. Period. The problem cited sounds way bigger than UCS. - The price of outfitting gear at Best Buy does not bear on mainframe configuration. Watches, calculators, cell phones. Amazing gismos but not quite ready for prime time commercial data bases. OK, I'm done. . . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote on 06/19/2005 19:44:39: > 37 MB is huge? Which decade are you living in? My digital watch has > 128 MB. My pocket calculator holds larger memory cards. > > Here is an alternative point of view: > > I, and a few thousand other apps programmers, have been waiting for > well over a year at my site for a 'non-lazy sysprog' (in your terms) > to implement the table (1208) needed to make half of the Enterprise > Cobol functionality available. > > This in a world where IBM doesn't ship a machine with less than 32G > or 64G of real storage? What is the smallest machine they have? > Even the little emulation laptops can hold a few gig of real storage > for the computing pleasure of a single developer. > > Not installing the entire set of translations is just begging for > ages and ages of wasted time in development. Even if the sysprogs > are very responsive to requests for new conversion it still means a > few days to get each individual translation added as needed. Only to > save a few meg... > > Here is a reality cookie for you -- Best Buy stores are selling 80G > hard drives for USD-19.95. That is about 25 3390's -- or about > USD-0.79 per 3390. I was shocked to see it, it reminded me of the > time I spent $1000 for a used 5M drive and felt I had gotten a great > deal. RAM is equally cheap, but programmer time is not. > > You might want to weigh the cost of wasted time for apps people not > having those translations available, having to stop development while > they are added, etc -verses- 37M of real storage. I think you will > be surprised to see which costs less. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

