On 24 Jun 2005 07:38:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >In ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >on 06/23/2005 > at 01:56 PM, "Duffy, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Something came up yesterday that I thought was worth sharing, as I'm >>concerned about it. This looks like a wave of the future and it >>makes change control on mainframes a potential nightmare if other >>vendors do this. > >Yes. > >>In the vaporware version in the demo they showed how simple it was >>to install and begin joining data elements together in a GUI and >>allow ad hoc inquiries in a "point and click and report" kind of >>way. > >> snip > >>When I asked about if there was an SMP/E install procedure, they >>looked at me with a quizzical look and said, "sure we cut SMF >>records." > >Now *there* is the problem. That vendor should be kept well away from >production on your system until they acquire a clue.
If this is an application product like an accounting package, it might be installed using Endeavor or ISPW to control the product. The application world uses different tools to achieve the same end. If the product can't conform to installation configuration management on either the applications or the systems side, you probably don't want it unless they can show that they have an equally good tool. Are Innovation Products SMP installable? I used to install them in the 1970's and 80's and don't recall it but I am legitimately allowed to have senior moments (Social Security Administration sends me checks) and I ride Pennsylvania transit off peak for free). > >>When I tried to explain the differences between SMP/E and SMF they >>were lost. > >Explain that it is the MVS standard for maintaining an audit trail of >software installation and maintenance, and that you aren't interested >until they have SMP installation and maintenance. > >>Has anyone else seen this sort of product installation method? > >The details are different, but there have been discussions before on >the lack of SMP competence at specific vendors. Has CA[1] finally >cleaned up its act? > >[1] Not that they're the only ones, but the are the most visible. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
