Shmuel,

If all of PLPA page-in occurs from the one cylinder PLPA dataset then I
totally agree with you.

However, with PLPA overflowing into Common the majority of PLPA page-ins
will come from the Common Page Dataset, not PLPA. You will have contention
for the two exposures when concurrent page-in requests for PLPA happen at
the same time as Common Page-in/out activity using the same two exposures.
At the same time the PLPA dataset will be relatively inactive.

A dedicated PLPA means there are "always" two exposures for PLPA Page-ins,
and "always" two exposures for Common page-in and page-out.

As for normal activity on the PLPA dataset, well have you considered that
the activity on a one Cylinder PLPA dataset does not represent the page-in
rate for PLPA pages. That is because most of the PLPA page-ins are coming
from Common? 

Assuming that an overflowed PLPA Dataset's activity equals PLPA page-in
activity is invalid. It does not.

So tell me, if I am building a new system and allocating new PLPA, Common,
and Locals, why wouldn't I simply allocate a larger PLPA without overflow
this time around (with PAV). That would be two JCL changes: one to deduct
CYLS from the Common and two; add them to the PLPA. Net result is improved
throughput in the event of heavy Page-in activity for PLPA and Common pages,
and no change if there is never any PLPA/Common activity.

Change it or not is a pointless debate, as YMMV. Which configuration should
be used to provide the maximum potential page-in rate is what I am
discussing.

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 7:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ILR005E PLPA PAGE DATA SET FULL
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/26/2005
>    at 10:00 AM, Ron and Jenny Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> 
> >you are restricting the number of paging paths, not increasing.
> 
> He's doing neither. The limit is still 2 exposures per paging data
> set. If you're concerned with active I/O rather than suspended, the
> normal activity level on PLPA is so low as to make the issue more
> political or theological than technical.
> 
> >The logic in that defeats me.
> 
> Because your assumptions are all wrong.
> 
> >The number of paths to auxiliary is firstly the number of page
> >datasets defined, and secondly the number of paths that they share.
> >Your logic doesn't seem to work for this case.
> 
> His logic works fine; it's your non sequitor that doesn't work. What
> he is doing saves him effort and has no impact on performance.
> 
> --
>      Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>      ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html>
> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
> 

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