We did quite a few redbooks on the subject of 'MVS Software Maintenance'.

Birger Heede
IBM Software Group


SArnett wrote:
I disagree for three two reasons. The first is that the IBM maintenance documentation stated that it could be done to the live system, the second is that the IBM maintenance documentation I was provided with was WRONG in how to apply the maintenance, and the third reason is that doing the oposite worked. If you will note, I said I had installed XA express. XA express was available ONLY to new MVS customers. Those coming from non-IBM systems or from VSE and VM. In both VM and VSE we applied the maintenance to the live system(with backups of course). I was new to MVS and had no MVS experience on which to fall back.

Two months after the incident that I spoke of, my brother showed up in town on vacation. He was a long time MVS sysprog and showed me how to set up an emergency system(which saved me when my boss inserted a JCL error into JES2). It wasn't until about four years later that I learned how to do indirect catalogue entries and began flip-flopping sysres volumes/SMPE zones when applying maintenance. I cannot even remember at what point in time I learned to do that. I went from a shop where I installed XE express coming from VM/VSE to a shop where I installed XA express coming from a non-IBM machine and OS to a shop where I upgraded the system from MVS/SP to MVS/XA using the CBIPO. It was after the CBIPO that I began the flip-flop maintenance philosophy.

I assure your that there was nothing in the XA express or CBIPO documentation explaining the "proper" maintenance philosophy of an MVS system. Nor was anything said in the MVS/XA Structure and Flow class from IBM or that piece of crap MVS Installation Workshop at IBM for which my company wasted money by sending me. The philosophy that I learned I garnered from talking to people like those on this list that give constructive help and from reading journals.

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

That sounds like you were using your target system as your driver
system, in which case it was not TSO/E that was at fault.

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