Thomas Conley wrote:

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Please pass along to the SDSF designer that it would be a whole lot easier if SDSF would just issue the @#$%^&* ICH408I, without jumping through the PROFILE WTPMSG hoop. NOWTPMSG is the default for a new TSO user, so debugging these errors is a huge PITA.

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Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, but...there's nothing (i.e., no ICH408I message) in SYSLOG?

(Nit: Of course, SDSF does not issue of ICH408I, RACF does. However, a caller can control the whether messages are issued; see the doc for RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH for the gory details. This could become important to you later...or not.)

From a TSO/E message standpoint, I think SDSF and RACF are acting properly, at least for the first case you describe. That's the entire intent of WTPMSG/NOWTPMSG, and how it's worked for at least 25 years. If I could go back in time and had the power to do so, I'd probably choose to make the defaults WTPMSG and MSGID, but it seems far too late to do that now. (Can you imagine the help desk calls from people who didn't understand all the "new" messages? *-Shiver-*)

For the second case, my personal opinion (which, when combined with a dollar, won't even get you coffee at Starbucks these days) is that there should be a way to diagnose the second problem from either messages issued to the user or messages recorded in SYSLOG without having to resort to SMF records and such.

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John Eells
z/OS Technical Marketing
IBM Poughkeepsie
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