If I understand him correctly, what Chris Craddock has been trying to say is that this problem is in general unsolvable. Perhaps an analogy will help.

Mathematicians have long known that no general method for finding the zeros of polynomials of degree five (quintics) or greater can be devised.

This does not mean that no quintic can be solved. The very special case (x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4)(x-5) has the zeros 1,2,3,4,5. It does mean that attempts to solve the general problem are misconceived.

If there is a need for this information in very special, carefully delimited circumstances, it may be possible to obtain it; but in these circumstances it would probably be better to alter your environment in a way that makes this information available in advance by saving it somewhere.

I also conjecture that this is why IBM has been 'resistant' to supplying this information. IBM has a long history of disliking point solutions that are useful only in very special circumstances. Its resistance to supporting the use of symbolics in JCL is not, for example, truculence. It is a reflectkon of the fact that no really robust way to provide this support can be devised.

John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721
USA

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