Comment noted. Weighed in thus : I am a z/OS Systems Programmer myself and am in my late 20's. I cannot help but laugh at the ignorance of many of the posters on this forum! Do they not realise that ESCON/EMIF was the first SAN! Do they not see that all the tools/concepts IBM is retrofitting to it's UNIX machines have been developed and implemented on the mainframe for years e.g. Workload Manager, Systems Automation, LPARS and dynamic LPAR management down to less than a single CPU!
We run 60 Oracle systems, 8 DB2 Subsystems (incorporating hundered of databases), 5 Datacom Database Subsystems, 200 TSO users (online), 2000 CICS users (online call centre staff), 150 Roscoe Users (online), 6500 batch jobs a day, Web Applications, programs written in C, COBOL, JAVA, and have 5 MQSeries Queue Managers on 7 LPARS with 9 Terabytes of SHARED DASD. We do this on a machine with 5 CPU's!! Now come on, that is real value. The thing never crashes! Oh and by the way, we operate in a parallel SYSPLEX (you know the clustering technology that actually works!!). The tools at my disposal to diagnose problems e.g Omegamon, Strobe, IPCS, SDSF, Sysview, would make a Unix, Windows admin wet their pants! I love to hear Unix people talk about old hat technology, green screens and the like. They then Telnet into their machine using VT100 and start employing 10 fingers at a time to operate VI. Now come on, they would kill for ISPF. I have to work in both Mainframe and Unix environments and I am sorry, but to me Unix seems so backwards from a management perspective. I am sure that it will catch up (IBM seem to be turning AIX and p/Series into a "mainframe"), bring it on! I can't wait to leverage my "outdated" mainframe skills on this new hardware! Meanwhile I will just keep taking the money and making sure the users keep taking me and the mainframe for granted. ---- Nuff said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

