Gil,

My comments below.

Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: Future ISPF directions (was: Re: How Was Share?)


In a recent note, Thomas Conley said:

Date:         Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:29:31 -0400

laughed at my jokes, and I began my next SHARE-based crusade (out with
Dynamic ISPF, in with multiple logon).  I had a fantastic time at this

Had to look up Dynamic ISPF at:

   http://www.frontiernet.net/~pinnacle/

Very interesting; thanks.  What are the chances for multiple logon?
Can it be achieved with little initial IBM support, as was Dynamic
ISPF?  (Or, with reasonable accommodation, similar to OW45623?)


I did not present Dynamic ISPF at this SHARE for the first time in like 10 SHAREs. I haven't had to modify the session in two years, so like Dubya, I'm declaring victory. We've won. IBM and vendors now largely support Dynamic ISPF, so whereas in the past we were swimming upstream, we're now going with the current.

Multiple logon is here now, with caveats. We're trying to resolve the issues we know about. Check out http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2004/0504/T0405002.pdf to get started. Also check out Mark Zelden's site http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html under the JOBs/Doc link. Pull up the Bit Bucket presentation on the SHARE web site to see the stuff I just posted.

<snip>


o Some users prefer the familiar environment of native ISPF
 over any workstation editor, even those that attempt to
 emulate ISPF.


Amen.

o The ability of an edit macro in a workstation editor to
 interface with the native z/OS environment is sorely
 limited.


??

o IBM's support for ISPGUI is dwindling; it appears to be
 Functionally Stabilized.


It doesn't appear to be, it is.

o The ISPGUI screen is simply ugly.  Users largely would largely
 prefer TN3270 style rendering of 3270 data streams on the
 workstation.


Absolutely.
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