Dataspaces and Hiperspaces came out in the 1988-1989 timeframe.  COBOL has
never supported them, yet COBOL has been able to interface successfully with
DB2 for that entire time, despite the fact that DB2 has exploited dataspaces
and hiperspaces for years.  I will admit that it is quite likely that a need
for 64 bit support in COBOL is coming down the road, but I don't have a clue
how far down the road.  Be aware that IF IBM every does support 64 bit
COBOL, it will be under the LE umbrella, which, for 64 bit C, C++ or LE
conforming assembler means:

The only means of communication between AMODE 64 and AMODE 24 or AMODE 31
applications is through mechanisms that can communicate across processes or
address spaces. However, Language Environment applications that use AMODE 64
can run with existing applications that use AMODE 24 or AMODE 31 on the same
physical zSeries system.

Basically, your entire application will need to be recompiled, retested,
etc. to support 64bit support, or else they will need to use some sort of
IPC model to communicate from a 31 bit application to a 64 bit application
(such as sockets).  Going to 64bit will NOT be a panacea that some seem to
believe.  

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
Western Metal Supply
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: 64-bit COBOL was(fwd) Re: Is there any XML parser available on z/OS
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:37:23 GMT, in bit.listserv.ibm-main "William M.
Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>And of course, no current customers have demonstrated any current (or 
>expected in the near future) need for AMODE(64) COBOL.
>
>--
>Bill Klein
> wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
>"Ed Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sep 26, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Steve Comstock wrote:
>>
>>> ------------------SNIP---------------------------
>>
>> And be aware that IBMs' cobol still doesn't support 64 bits.
>>
>> Ed
>>

I recall submitting a requirement that IBM provide 64 bit support in COBOL
concurrent with CICS, DB2 and Websphere support or words to that effect.  We
will need 64 bit support in COBOL on day one of the time that it could be
used.  Then is NOT the time to decide whether there is a need for it.  COBOL
needs to be able to play efficiently with things like XML and the above
listed subsystems.  If they don't use 64 bit, then COBOL doesn't need it.
If they do and interface with 64 bit application code, COBOL needs 64 bit
capability.  In this sense, if IBM internal communications are adequate, IBM
has a better idea of the need and the time frame for the need than the
customer base.  We as customers should be almost yelling at IBM that we
don't want to have to rewrite code just so that we can use it efficiently
with JAVA, Websphere or any other offering.
>

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