In a message dated 10/1/2005 7:39:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If no  one is joining up the association inevitably folds.  And it's  all
local, on the local members' shoulders.

Why are we even debating  this?  Go sign up some new members!



>>
Again, horse has left the barn! Only MVS shop in 50 mile
radius and if the conversion  continues there will be none.
Where's the base? CS dept doesn't teach ALC or COBOL so best
recruiting is from visiting professor's spouses, once acclimated
off to higher paying endeavors.
 
Many, many infrastructure issues. Education, training, career
development, exposure, market penetration. Seems like IBM
completely withdrawn from the trenches, trying to lob in these
pejorative initiatives from Armonk in hopes the masses will
trickle back. Ain't gonna happen. 

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