On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:56:47 -0500 Tony Harminc said:
>2009/11/17 Lindy Mayfield <[email protected]>:
>
>> I also read in z/Journal that the lines between a mainframe computer (the z10
>to be specific) and a super computer are being blurred. ¦When I was at
>GuideSHARE Europe two years ago (in Dresden, lovely city) they had a hardware
>guy there next to a z10 with the nice green stripe down it, and he told me that
>the mainframe is great for transactional processing, as always, but not too 
>much
>suited for WebSphere, Java stuff, etc. ¦That's why they had to add speciality
>engines, etc. ¦Well, that's how I remember it.
>>
>> Just curious what other people think about this sort of stuff.
>
>The "specialty engine" part is just so much marketing hype. As has
>been discussed endlessly here, the current specialty engines are the
>very same engines as all the others, but with different legal Ts & Cs
>that make it impossible to run "traditional" workloads on them. IBM
>marketing tries very hard, without actually saying so, to suggest that
>these engines are different hardware that somehow make Java,Websphere,
>Linux, DB2, or whatever run faster. It may well be that specialty
>engines can save money under some conditions, and there's nothing
>wrong with that, but it's annoying to hear so much borderline stuff
>about them.

Actually, there is at least 1 technical difference between specialty
engines and GP engines.  Specialty engines run at full speed, so you
may be able run more CPU intensive workload on a z10 IFL than a z10 GP.
This doesn't change the rest of Tony's point, but it is a technical
difference that can have impact.

/ahw

>
>Of course IBM *could* put truly different engines in if they wanted
>to, and there have been rumours for a long time about putting CBE
>chips and such into System z boxes, but I don't believe it's happened
>yet.
>
>Tony H.
>
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