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<><>People don't need college to learn Java. Java's available for free, it handles the kind of applications an amateur knows & likes to play with, and it is easy to find help on the Web.

<><>People don't need college to learn brain surgery, either, though the results MAY be better. I'd actually not argue for "college", but for mature, skilled OJT. The problem with all too much code on all sides of the fence is folks who have no training and just hack things together.

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I studied brain surgery once, but never figured out how to get my chain saw into those exceeding small spaces where most politicians store what passes for brains. :-)

Considering what we've got here in Illinois, I'm not sure a needle could find the "Sense of Integrity" center; I'm sure the "Ethics gene" is completely absent. :-)

Rick

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