All threads here get hijacked eventually. Some sooner than others. From 
responses that __I__ have received from IBM in the past, they tend not to 
implement "in flux" stuff. And, they basically say "give us a business case to 
implement ... and we will prioritize it with other requests." What they mean by 
"business case" is "how this will make us money" (reasonable). The safe 
functions are not a standard. They are in a TR status. I don't really know what 
that means. I am sure that once they become an ANSI/ISO standard, IBM will 
implement them (eventually).

I had not realized that the safe functions have one major plus over the "n" 
functions. They guarantee that the \0 can be copied too. And that the source 
will fit in the dest area before doing anything at all. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for 
> mainframe C/C++ specifically?
> 
> Gosh, there is no question that can't be hijacked into something else.
> 
> Thank you to all the people who suggested I use the C++ 
> classes. Yes, yes, I
> am well aware of the string class. It does not do everything. 
> There are
> times when char[] makes more sense and/or must be used. When 
> doing so, it
> pays to be as "safe" as possible. Yes, it is possible to be 
> "safe" without
> using "safe" functions, but the same could be said of any 
> helpful tool in
> software: "you don't really need it -- you can accomplish the 
> same thing
> other ways."
> 
> Thank you to all the people who used this thread to remind us 
> that Microsoft
> is the evil empire. I might suggest that all IBM would have 
> to do to defeat
> MS's nefarious plot to take over the world would be to 
> implement about half
> a dozen small library functions that MS has proposed as 
> additions to the C++
> standard.
> 
> Thank you also to the one person who gave a helpful answer to 
> the question I
> actually asked and suggested a possibly relevant mailing list.
> 
> Charles

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