Bill You may have missed the point I was making here. Lloyd was claiming to be playing with 360/30s in the *early* '60s and I was adjusting that to necessarily being the *late* '60s since it could not possibly have been the early '60s. I was not intending to limit the lifetime of the 360/30 to that hallucinogenic era.
Indeed I remember hearing about a 360/30 in one customer site where I did some work sometime in the early '70s which was being retained purely to perform 1401 emulation! I don't expect it was the only one. Chris Mason On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:29:07 -0500, William Bishop <[email protected]> wrote: >Actually, we had them in Heidelberg Germany up to mid 1978, running DOS. >The data center was actualy a set of vans connected by a wooden walkway. > >Thanks > >Bill Bishop > >Specialist >Mainframe Support Group >Server Development & Support >Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc. >[email protected] >(502) 570-6143 > > > >Chris Mason <[email protected]> >Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> >12/21/2009 10:22 AM >Please respond to >IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> > > >To >[email protected] >cc > >Subject >Re: "Portable" data centers (was RE: Small Server Mob Advantage) > > > > > > >Lloyd > >>...> The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel trailers back in the > >early 1960s ... > >That'll be the *late* '60s. > >> These were batch machines running DOS/VS. > >... and it will have been DOS/360 not DOS/VS. "VS" did not burst onto >the "360 GT" (370) commercial customer scene until 1972. > >Chris Mason > >On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:05:16 -0800, Lloyd Fuller <[email protected]> >wrote: > >>Mouse? the only stinking mouse was the one eating the punch cards! These > >were batch machines running DOS/VS. >> >>They did have lots of cable and the installations that I saw were REAL >careful about what kind of traffic even came close to the trailers. In >fact >even foot traffic was discouraged! >> >>Lloyd >> >>--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Thompson, Steve ><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> From: Thompson, Steve <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: "Portable" data centers (was RE: Small Server Mob >Advantage) >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 4:00 PM >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Lloyd Fuller >>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:57 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: "Portable" data centers (was RE: Small Server >>> Mob >>> Advantage) >>> >>> What do you mean Sun was the first? >>> >>> The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel trailers >>> back in the >>> early 1960s - 40 years before Sun "thought" of the >>> idea. The Army even >>> had those in Vietnam for the division data centers. >>> >>> Lloyd >>> <snip> >>> >>> Yeah, and they had 600' of channel cables attached to a >>> jeep to use as a >>> mouse. >>> >>> Sorry, I just couldn't get this cartoon out of my mind of >>> the original >>> mouse... >>> >>> Regards, >>> Steve Thompson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
